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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=132373
Printed Date: May 10, 2024 at 8:14 AM


Topic: omega au 93 4 window rollup .

Posted By: 1prix
Subject: omega au 93 4 window rollup .
Date Posted: October 13, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Question-i hooked up the window module to 1 window just to test its operation.
I connected it to the orange starter output wire that should be ground when armed.But when i hit arm it does nothing, lol but when i remote start the car or start the car with the key the window rolls up by itself.

What am i doing wrong

Now when i take the rely out of the relay holder it works like it should.

i am 99.99% sure i have the starter interrupter connected properly because it works like it should.(it does not allow me to start the car when armed or when the alarm is going off)




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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 13, 2012 at 7:09 PM
Orange wire, diode thus using 2 x 1N4004:-887_starter_cut.bmp

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 13, 2012 at 7:27 PM
A little off topic (but still related). On my python 990 I have the same issue with the windows rolling up on remote start. On this unit though the starter kill relay is internal. Is the GWA wire internally connected without diodes to that starter kill? Will putting a diode on the orange wire heading to the 530t prevent the window roll-up?

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 13, 2012 at 9:17 PM
howie ll wrote:

Orange wire, diode thus using 2 x 1N4004:-887_starter_cut.bmp

i am really not understanding what you are talking about.this was my first alarm install.I have some 1N4005 diodes and why two.My starter kill came with a built in diode. I really don't want to ditch the starter kill.




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM
posted_image
This is how my starter interrupter is wired.
What would i need to do.




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 12:01 AM
what's your email i want to send you a picture of how my starter interrupter is wired.
Then maybe you can add or change what needs to be done.
would the IN4005 diodes work?
i would like to get this done by monday.
Thank you very much

I tried to send you a private pm offroadzj i think your box is full.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 3:41 AM
Right hand side of the drawing, ORANGE wire from "system control module" branch out from it using your available diode.
A 1N4005 is fine but what worries me is that diagram already shows a diode.
Ha, I've just realised, that that diagram is wrong and the one I showed you is right! That's why you're getting problems!
In the diagram do you see an ignition wire going to that relay????
Correct wiring:-
Orange GWA to 85 via diode (as shown, if not 1N4005 is fine, band towards control module.
Cut vehicle starter wire.
Key side to 87a.
Motor side + violet from control module to 30
IGNITION 1 to 86.
Kenny, it should be internally dioded but it does come from "let's make it cheaper" DEI.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 3:47 AM
If none of the above works check your wiring and especially check the voltage across the power inputs and ground.
What worries me is "I'm not really understanding what you're talking about, this was my first alarm".
Apart from correcting your English what you said is sending shivers of trepidation down my spine. Will I hear the bang from 3000+ miles away?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 4:52 AM
Everybody has their first time doing anything. I have read a read a hooded up the alarm per the installation manual,so if the starter interrupter is wrong that is how the manual says to do it.

And what i meant was that i can't understand your diagram it looks confusing but i understand the basic startkill diagram in the relay section of this forum.

I haven't taken classes for installing alarms/remote starters but a can read and follow directions if explained clearly.

so i guess i will use this
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 5:10 AM
Which is exactly what I just told you to do except per international convention (ISO) 85 and 86 are the other way round, in practise it doesn't matter but that's how the motor manufacturers do it.
As an alternative the diode across the middle can also be run inline on the orange wire.
Just check to see if your R/S manufacturer has wired it the same way.
The point I was making is that the original diagram you very nicely printed makes no mention of ignition feed to 86 (or in this case 85).
Classes are a load of rubbish, it's the "hands-on" experience you're getting now that counts.
Just a couple of points to remember though I must admit you seem to be doing them, test and verify and don't box up until done and dusted.
Can I assume you're soldering all your joints after testing?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 7:07 AM
yes i do solider and heat shrink when ever possible.
Why did the manufacture provide misleading info in the first place?




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM
1prix] wrote:

yes i do solider and heat shrink when ever possible.
Why did the manufacture provide misleading info in the first place?

one other thing where does the violet starter output wire connect to if it's used at all?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 7:59 AM
Again refer to my previous post or my original diagram, i.e. cut starter wire, key side to 87a and STARTER MOTOR OUTPUT FROM R/S CONTROL UNIT and STARTER SIDE of CUT wire to 30.
My doubts were because this is the THIRD time I've either drawn this or told you.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 8:04 AM
Cheap R/S = usually wrong info or badly (i.e. misleading) drawn diagrams.
Also R/S devices are to be installed by PROS who know what they are doing.
Not intended for DIYers.
Frankly your instructions should tell you what the violet wire does or even common sense, "starter output" means that a POS (+) starter out put is sending 12V+ to the starter motor.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 1prix
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 8:29 PM
I'm learning,be easy on me.Sometimes i have to read things over and over than that light bulb in my head comes on.
I really appreciate your help,i'll get this wired up tomorrow on my day off.





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