viper not letting car start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: viper not letting car start
Posted By: fordking
Subject: viper not letting car start
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM
I can't start my car. When I turn it to start, there's no turn over, no clicking, no nothing. The battery & electrical all check out fine.
When the key is out of the ignition and in the off position, the remotes work. When in the start position they don't. I've tried to pull the brain out & still didn't work. What can I do to pull out the alarm so I can start it or bypass it?
2006 Ford Crown Vic
Viper 5901
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Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM
There should be a violet wire and a green wire coming off the Viper and going to 2 sides of the vehicle starter wire. Reconnect the vehicle's starter wire and it should start. If not then you have other issues besides the Viper.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: fordking
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 4:54 PM
It didn't work. Could it be something else
Posted By: fordking
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 5:02 PM
& now the remote doesn't work at all. Its not registering & an X comes up at the top
Posted By: fordking
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Also, Idk if it helps but my headunit & miles display, & seatbelt sign go out when I turn the key to the start position
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM
Dead battery or bad terminals. Bring your battery to have it tested.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 5:31 PM
"The battery and electrical all work out fine". How was it tested?
Is there an ignition fusible link on this vehicle? If so test it.
Test for voltage at the ignition switch, use a DMM not a test light.
I have great problems in believing that quote on the first line.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 6:07 PM
That is the thing with customer's blaming alarms for the issue.
In all the years in the industry I have yet to see a Directed alarm that does disarms stop the vehicle from starting. Automatically the remote start is to blame. Can't it be a dead battery? Can't it be a bad starter? As stated by Howie. Test the battery with a DMM. If all is well try checking to see if you hear the starter click. Most cases the starter is the cause of it...
Don't get me wrong. An alarm may cause that but testing is key.
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Eric
Audiomaxx
528 East Fordham Road
Bronx NY 10458
Compustar Top Gun Dealer Award 2012-2013
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM
With everything dimming when you turn the key, it tells me it's either a really bad ground somewhere or your battery. It doesn't sound like it's anything with the remote starter.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM
Eric, wish I had a fiver ($7.50) for every time I heard "the alarm's draining my battery".
It's BS the ave. alarm/RS draws 30-40 milliamp on standby, about 20-30 of that being the LED.
Less than the average car clock.
Whatever happened to what I was brought up to..lift the hood once a week, check all levels inc. the battery.
Not all modern batteries are sealed for life, the only sealed batteries are those with the display bubble, even then there are ways to "unseal" them.
By testing, for the original poster, voltage check on start-up and run, drop test. Test ALL the fuses, test (with a meter, not by looking).
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 6:18 PM
P.S. some of the early 5901s did have problems with the built in starter cut/anti-grind but there are two simple work-arounds for that after testing to confirm, first reconnect the cut starter wire or add a relay.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 8:27 PM
The only issue i had with the first batch of the new generation viper systems was that it would freeze completely. No response at all.
Also, batteries dying is most notable during the winter. Summer time doesn't happen as much.
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Eric
Audiomaxx
528 East Fordham Road
Bronx NY 10458
Compustar Top Gun Dealer Award 2012-2013
Posted By: auto enhancers
Date Posted: October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Well being that it is a ford my money will be in the starter solenoid. If the lights are dimming in the start position that means the key is doing what if is supposed to( as long as the battery is good) time to work down the line to see what might be bad. Could also be that the transmission is not in park. If the sensor dosent see the car in park it won't allow it to start. Try putting the car in neutral( be carful to have your foot on the brake) try starting the car. If that works go to your local mechanic and explain what is happening.
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