viper 5904 and 2013 toyota tacoma

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster.  I have searched and researched literally hours on this and this is what I have come up with.  It’s been a while since I have installed an alarm and I want to make sure I have all of the correct connections.  I am assuming the 2013 is the same as the 2012.

I am installing a Viper 5904 into a 2013 Toyota Tacoma Double Cab, V6, Automatic, with a “G” key.  Can you guys review the wiring I have below and let me know if I’ve got it all correct?  I have some questions regarding which connections require relays and also the PKALL bypass.  I downloaded the instructions for the “G” key, I am a little fuzzy on the Data 2 wire and the keysense.

This post was very helpful, but it does not look like I need to use the keysense wire and the tx/rx for the bypass are in a different location.

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004

Also, will the WHITE/ red wire at the ignition switch be enough to power all of the relays, including those on the H3 harness?  The wiring diagram I have says that there is another 12v constant at the ignition switch (WHITE/ blue), should I use that for the relays?

From what I gather I will need a total of 3 relays – horn honk, dome light and starter 2.  And perhaps one more each for the parking lights and piezo siren?

Sorry for the long post, thanks in advance to anyone who reads and responds!

Viper 5904 Connections

H1/1 12v Constant – WHITE/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H1/2 ground - ground
H1/3 (+) siren – positive of siren, will this support a piezo siren as well, or should this be on a relay?
H1/4 Parking light isolation wire – n/a
H1/5 Parking light output (relay?) – green - headlight switch, white 20 pin plug, pin 18 (Set jumper to negative)
H1/6 Ground when Armed – blue/white - PKALL

H2/1 Ignition/Flex Relay Control Output – n/a
H2/2 Neutral Safety Input - ground
H2/3 2nd status – n/a
H2/4 OEM Alarm Disarm Output – GREEN/ black - driver kick, gray 10 pin plug, pin 8, set to double pulse
H2/5 Trunk release – n/a
H2/6 (-) Door Trigger input – GREEN/ YELLOW - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1F), pin 7 (will this work for all 4 doors?)
H2/7 (-) Dome light supervision – relay- blue - dash fuse box, black 13 pin plug (1E), pin 9
H2/8 (-) Horn Honk Output – relay - GREEN/ red - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1C), pin 10
H2/9 Status Output – n/a
H2/10 Ignition 1 output – n/a
H2/11 Aux 3 output - n/a
H2/12 (+) Door trigger input – n/a
H2/13 Aux 1 output - n/a
H2/14 Aux 2 output - n/a
H2/15 Aux 4 output - n/a
H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown – blue - dash fuse box, white 13 pin plug (1D), pin 13
H2/17 (-) Hood pin input – hood pin
H2/18 (-) Starter output – relay - BLACK/ white - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 3
H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin – n/a
H2/20 Diesel Wait to start – n/a
H2/21 Turbo Timer – n/a
H2/22 (-) Accessory Output – n/a
H2/23 Tach input - BLACK/ white - data link connector, white 16 pin plug, pin 9
H2/24 (-) OEM Alarm Arm Output – purple - driver kick, gray 10 pin plug, pin 4

H3/1 (+) Ignition 1 - BLACK/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6
H3/2 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H3/3 (+) Accessory Output – n/a
H3/4 (+) Starter Output (car side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7
H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key Side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7
H3/6 (+) Fused Ignition 1 input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H3/7 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output - blue / YELLOW - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1
H3/8 (+) Flex Relay input – n/a
H3/9 (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H3/10 – n/a

Door Lock 3 pin connector is not used

PKALL Connections

Connector 1 – D2D – to Viper 5904

Connector 2
PURPLE / White – Data 1 – Light GREEN/ Black- ECM Behind glove box, SPLICE into Pin 20
Yellow/Black – Data 2 – Blue/White - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, ECM Side (??)
Blue/White – Ground while running – H1/6 - blue/white Viper
Green – n/a (Keysense??)
Pink – n/a
Black – n/a
 
Connector 3
Light Green – Same connection as yellow/black…(??)
ORANGE / Brown –  Blue/white - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, Car Side (??)
ORANGE / Green – n/a
Brown – n/a

Thanks!

Jason

One correction so far :

H1/6 not used.  PKALL Blue/White goes to Viper H2/9.  Status Out = Ground When Running

Wow you are fast, thanks for the corrections!

Here is the link to the PKALL manuals, I am using the Tacoma G Key pdf and that is where I got the wiring for the PKALL.

https://www.xpresskit.com/product.aspx?productid=196

Thanks again,

Jason

For another source of +12V constant power, most Toyota's have a thick gauge wire ( usually White or Black ) at the
front of the fuse box.  It is usually rated at over 100 Amps.

Yes, that is the correct PKALL install guide to use.  Just make sure the PKALL has the latest firmware loaded. ( Ver 4.07 ? )

Here is a link to a WEB site that has photos of the connection location / wires for the bypass module : 
https://www.checkyourground.com/

Thanks again!

Glad to help.  Bulldog shows the 2009 - 2012 as the same.  If the 2013 is also the same, here is a link to a nice pictorial on a 2010 ( no G key ) :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004~PN~1

Yes, PKALL Ver 4.0 was the cut-over point.  Anything higher will work.

Please post you results.    

Your Viper Parking Light connection to the trucks Green (-) Parking Light wire at the Headlight switch does not require a relay.  Just remember to set the Vipers' internal jumper/fuse accordingly ( think it comes set to positive, if it didn't shake loose during shipping ).  You wouldn't need a relay if you decided to connect to the trucks' (+) Green Parking Light wire at the fuse box, either.

Not sure what the current draw is on your piezo.  Not sure what the max current rating is on the Vipers' siren output either.  Perhaps another forum member has that Viper info and can jump in.

Well, just got done with initial install and all wires are correct.  The imi wires on correct on the pdf from xpresskit, they are different from the ones in the link provided above.

I do have a quesiton.  After starting the vehicle, either remote start or with the key, after shutting it off, the engine makes a weird sucking noise, for lack of a better description.  Any ideas?  The truck seems to be fine, it's just right after shut down, it makes a little extra noise, witch I don't think was there before.

I am continuing to test, right now.

Jason

I mean correct as noted above...  Hopefully I connected them all correctly!

Ok, did some more testing.  When the alarm is off and the car is remote started, the doors remain unlocked.  However, if you use the remote to shut down the remote start, the doors LOCK a few seconds after the car shuts off.

I have the ignition lock/unlock set to on in the bit writer menu, but that doesn't seem to work.  I thought that meant the doors lock when the car is startted, perhaps this only works if the 3 pin harness is used?  I didn't use it because I was using the factory arm/disarm. Now that I type this, this makes sense.  However, the doors locking a few seconds after the remote shut down doesn't make sense.  If I press the disarm button on the remote, they unlock and I get the disarm chirp.  I also tried to see if opening the door (had the window opened and unlocked the door) to see if the factory alarm or something would go off and nothing happens.

Last thing I noticed on the remote start is that when I use thre key and turn the ignition on after remote starting, the anti grind works, but the whole truck almost shuts off, it's like it is cutting power to everything like you when you start the car, but it doesn't grind.  I am wondering if this is normal on the Toyota, on my Silverado, when you turn the key, it doesn't do anything.

Regards

Ok, just to close the loop on this for anyone out there doing this on a new Tacoma..

The whooshing/sucking noise is normal, it is the smog pump.  Found that on another forum.

For the record, I ended up using the lock/unlock 3 pin harness and connecting it to the factory arm/disarm wires.  I did not use the arm/disarm wires on the Viper or the loc/unlock wires on the truck.  This solved everything.  Truck remains locked when remote started and they now also lock on ignition and unlock when shut off. I did set the alarm up for that.

Thanks for the help.  The hardest part of the whole install is organizing all of the wires and the brain and finding a place to mount everything.  There is not much room under the dash and with the parking brake, there are a lot of moving pieces to avoid.

Jason

jmat72 wrote:

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Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster.  I have searched and researched literally hours on this and this is what I have come up with.  It’s been a while since I have installed an alarm and I want to make sure I have all of the correct connections.  I am assuming the 2013 is the same as the 2012.

I am installing a Viper 5904 into a 2013 Toyota Tacoma Double Cab, V6, Automatic, with a “G” key.  Can you guys review the wiring I have below and let me know if I’ve got it all correct?  I have some questions regarding which connections require relays and also the PKALL bypass.  I downloaded the instructions for the “G” key, I am a little fuzzy on the Data 2 wire and the keysense.

This post was very helpful, but it does not look like I need to use the keysense wire and the tx/rx for the bypass are in a different location.

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004

Also, will the WHITE/ red wire at the ignition switch be enough to power all of the relays, including those on the H3 harness?  The wiring diagram I have says that there is another 12v constant at the ignition switch (WHITE/ blue), should I use that for the relays?

From what I gather I will need a total of 3 relays – horn honk, dome light and starter 2.  And perhaps one more each for the parking lights and piezo siren?

Sorry for the long post, thanks in advance to anyone who reads and responds!

Viper 5904 Connections

H1/1 12v Constant – WHITE/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H1/2 ground - ground
H1/3 (+) siren – positive of siren, will this support a piezo siren as well, or should this be on a relay?
H1/4 Parking light isolation wire – n/a
H1/5 Parking light output (relay?) – green - headlight switch, white 20 pin plug, pin 18 (Set jumper to negative)
H1/6 Ground when Armed – blue/white - PKALL

H2/1 Ignition/Flex Relay Control Output – n/a
H2/2 Neutral Safety Input - ground
H2/3 2nd status – n/a
H2/4 OEM Alarm Disarm Output – GREEN/ black - driver kick, gray 10 pin plug, pin 8, set to double pulse
H2/5 Trunk release – n/a
H2/6 (-) Door Trigger input – GREEN/ YELLOW - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1F), pin 7 (will this work for all 4 doors?)
H2/7 (-) Dome light supervision – relay- blue - dash fuse box, black 13 pin plug (1E), pin 9
H2/8 (-) Horn Honk Output – relay - GREEN/ red - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1C), pin 10
H2/9 Status Output – n/a
H2/10 Ignition 1 output – n/a
H2/11 Aux 3 output - n/a
H2/12 (+) Door trigger input – n/a
H2/13 Aux 1 output - n/a
H2/14 Aux 2 output - n/a
H2/15 Aux 4 output - n/a
H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown – blue - dash fuse box, white 13 pin plug (1D), pin 13
H2/17 (-) Hood pin input – hood pin
H2/18 (-) Starter output – relay - BLACK/ white - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 3
H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin – n/a
H2/20 Diesel Wait to start – n/a
H2/21 Turbo Timer – n/a
H2/22 (-) Accessory Output – n/a
H2/23 Tach input - BLACK/ white - data link connector, white 16 pin plug, pin 9
H2/24 (-) OEM Alarm Arm Output – purple - driver kick, gray 10 pin plug, pin 4

H3/1 (+) Ignition 1 - BLACK/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6
H3/2 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H3/3 (+) Accessory Output – n/a
H3/4 (+) Starter Output (car side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7
H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key Side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7
H3/6 (+) Fused Ignition 1 input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H3/7 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output - blue / YELLOW - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1
H3/8 (+) Flex Relay input – n/a
H3/9 (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5
H3/10 – n/a

Door Lock 3 pin connector is not used

PKALL Connections

Connector 1 – D2D – to Viper 5904

Connector 2
PURPLE / White – Data 1 – Light GREEN/ Black- ECM Behind glove box, SPLICE into Pin 20
Yellow/Black – Data 2 – Blue/White - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, ECM Side (??)
Blue/White – Ground while running – H1/6 - blue/white Viper
Green – n/a (Keysense??)
Pink – n/a
Black – n/a
 
Connector 3
Light Green – Same connection as yellow/black…(??)
ORANGE / Brown –  Blue/white - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, Car Side (??)
ORANGE / Green – n/a
Brown – n/a

Thanks!

Jason

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Yes, I got everything working correctly, with the changes made in the following posts.  I did use a relay for the horn, starter 2 and the dome light supervision.  I would search around, I don't think the wiring is going to be the same in a Scion tc.

jmat72 wrote:

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Yes, I got everything working correctly, with the changes made in the following posts.  I did use a relay for the horn, starter 2 and the dome light supervision.  I would search around, I don't think the wiring is going to be the same in a Scion tc.

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jmat72 wrote:

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Yes, I got everything working correctly, with the changes made in the following posts.  I did use a relay for the horn, starter 2 and the dome light supervision.  I would search around, I don't think the wiring is going to be the same in a Scion tc.

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If you read the following posts, kreg357 corrected my wiring from the alarm to the PKALL.  As for the PKALL wiring, you can use the link I had in the one of the posts and find your Scion on the list of pdfs (assuming it is supported) and that will tell you how to wire it up.

Doesn't connect to anything.  Don't make the same mistake as I did.  My warn away wasn't working and I just googled it, the green loop needs to be on the sensor side and the loose green needs to be on the brain side.  They should have made the molex unique so it only works one way.  Now I have to get back under the dash and switch them.

kreg357 wrote:

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For another source of +12V constant power, most Toyota's have a thick gauge wire ( usually White or Black ) at the
front of the fuse box.  It is usually rated at over 100 Amps.

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Did you check the front of the fuse box?

kreg357 wrote:

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kreg357 wrote:

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For another source of +12V constant power, most Toyota's have a thick gauge wire ( usually White or Black ) at the
front of the fuse box.  It is usually rated at over 100 Amps.

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Did you check the front of the fuse box?

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eddiebx wrote:

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That's right, no need for the PKALL with an alarm only install. The PKALL is for transponder bypassing which would not be required if you don't plan to bypass the transponder

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lucasoil4u wrote:

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Can you tell me what a G key is?

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Can somebody confirm that I am following step by step connections and corrections for this install, and explain to my noob azz how to run the 3 relays used?From what I've gathered on how to run 1out of 3 relays is to relay  viper H2/18(-) Starter Output.So from the wiring diagram Second & Third relays go to h2/7(-) Dome Light Supervison & H2/8 (-) Honk Honk Output.For 2nd & 3rd relay, do i use seperate relays for each and same kind of relay as used for the viper H2/18??I would appreciate if someone can explain it noob style on my confusion with the relays connections, and look over my edited wiring diagram that I gathered from original Jmats post and all corrections made.Thank you in advance!

Viper 5904 Connections

H1/1 12v Constant – WHITE/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H1/2 ground - ground

H1/3 (+) siren – positive of siren, will this support a piezo siren as well, or should this be on a

relay?

H1/4 Parking light isolation wire – n/a

H1/5 Parking light output (relay?) – green - headlight switch, white 20 pin plug, pin 18 (Set

jumper to negative)

H1/6 Ground when Armed – not used

H2/1 Ignition/Flex Relay Control Output – n/a

H2/2 Neutral Safety Input - ground

H2/3 2nd status – n/a

H2/4 OEM Alarm Disarm Output-not used?

H2/5 Trunk release – n/a

H2/6 (-) Door Trigger input – GREEN/ YELLOW - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1F), pin 7 (will this

work for all 4 doors?)

H2/7 (-) Dome light supervision – relay- blue - dash fuse box, black 13 pin plug (1E), pin 9

H2/8 (-) Horn Honk Output – relay - GREEN/ red - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1C), pin 10

H2/9 Status Output – pkall blue/white

H2/10 Ignition 1 output – n/a

H2/11 Aux 3 output - n/a

H2/12 (+) Door trigger input – n/a

H2/13 Aux 1 output - n/a

H2/14 Aux 2 output - n/a

H2/15 Aux 4 output - n/a

H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown – blue - dash fuse box, white 13 pin plug (1D), pin 13

H2/17 (-) Hood pin input – hood pin

H2/18 (-) Starter output – relay - BLACK/ white - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 3

H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin – n/a

H2/20 Diesel Wait to start – n/a

H2/21 Turbo Timer – n/a

H2/22 (-) Accessory Output – n/a

H2/23 Tach input - BLACK/ white - data link connector, white 16 pin plug, pin 9

H2/24 (-) OEM Alarm Arm Output – purple - driver kick, gray 10 pin plug, pin 4

H3/1 (+) Ignition 1 - BLACK/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6

H3/2 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H3/3 (+) Accessory Output – WHITE/ green@ignition switch white 8pin plug pin2

H3/4 (+) Starter Output (car side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7

H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key Side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7

H3/6 (+) Fused Ignition 1 input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H3/7 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output - blue / YELLOW - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1

H3/8 (+) Flex Relay input – n/a

H3/9 (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H3/10 – n/a

Door Lock 3 pin connector -(factory arm/disarm wires?)? what wires to what factory wires?

PKALL Connections

Connector 1 – D2D – to Viper 5904

Connector 2

PURPLE / White – Data 1 – Light GREEN/ Black- ECM Behind glove box, SPLICE into Pin 20

Yellow/Black – Data 2 – Blue/White - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, ECM Side (??)

Blue/White – Ground while running – H1/6 - blue/white Viper

Green – n/a (Keysense??)

Pink – n/a

Black – n/a

Connector 3

Light Green – Same connection as yellow/black…(??)

ORANGE / Brown – Blue/white - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, Car Side (??)

ORANGE / Green – n/a

Brown – n/a

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Do you remeber why you used a relay for the dome&honk honk?From what I've searched and seen on other similiar installs on Tacomas, no one else used relays for those two, but other post werent the same year car as ours..

I used relays because I don't think the alarm outputs enough to drive the circuits.  You could try not using relays, but you could burn out the output on the alarm if the dome light/horn draw too much current.  At least that is the thought process.  Like I said, I don't do this for a living, just know enough to be dangerous..

Jason

kreg357 wrote:

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One correction so far :

H1/6 not used.  PKALL Blue/White goes to Viper H2/9.  Status Out = Ground When Running

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