viper 4704v ’07 4 runner

I am installing a Viper 4704v remote start in my 2009 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab,4 cylinder manual transmission. This will be my first install. Any tips and wiring schematics or easyinstall steps (possibly with pictures)? I could use any and all help. Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

looking to install the viper 4704v remote start in a 2007 Toyota 4-Runner. Could use any and all help. Wiring schematics, pictures, tips again any help please. Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

Link to wiring guide:  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

Do a search on this web site for your vehicle. You may find useful info for your install.  And a bypass is needed.

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Wiring info here -

https://readyremote.com/print.asp?action=select&yr=24807&product=Remote%20Start

You will need a bypass module. It will only control the immobilizer so you would need to wire everything up to the truck (locks, door trigger, tach, etc).

Make sure you don't use virtual tach. Must use a hard wired tach connecction for manual trans. Also, need to connect the door trigger wire. Otherwise it's a fairly straightforward install even if it's your first one. Nothing complicated with that truck.

You can get bypass modules from Xpresskit, idatalink or Fortin. I personally prefer idatalink and Fortin.

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I am installing a Viper 4704v remote start in my 2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab. It is a base model 4 cylinder and manual transmission. I am having problems finding the Transponder Key Amplifier to hook up the data key bypass. Or does it even have a chipped key? Also I am uncertain about some of the wires for the Remote Start 8-pin connector the wires are:

Pink (+) Ignition 1 input/output       connected to Ignition Switch pin 6 BLACK/ Red

RED / White (+) 12VDC Constant Input for Ignition 2 and flex relays  connected to Ignition Switch pin 5 WHITE/ Red

Orange (+) Accessory output       connected to Ignition Switch pin 2 WHITE/ Green

Violet (+) Starter output        connected to Ignition Switch pin 7 GREEN/ Black

Red (+) 12VDC Constant input for Ignition 1 relay   connected to Ignition Switch pin 4 WHITE/ Blue

Pink/White (+) Ignition 2/ Flex relay Output       connected to Ignition Switch pin 1 Blue / YELLOW

Pink/Black (+) Flex relayinput 87A key side (if required) of Flex relay     Not connected

RED / Black (+) 12VDC Constant Input for ACC and starter relays         Not Connected

Is this correct? Does one of the 12VDC suppose to have 2 wires connected to it or does the 3rd 12VDC (RED / Black) go somewhere else?

 

PLEASE HELP

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

For ignition 2 (BLUE / YELLOW)you need to have the H3/7 30 Flex hooked up to power it from ingition 1_BLACK/ Red or +12v Battery_ WHITE/ Blue, this is a preference on which one to use the 2010 says to use +12v! And starter 2 I think is a lower voltage connection that needs to have power, though I never done one. To test starter 2 w/DMM turn key to start and read volts. If +12v then you will need an additional SPDT relay controlled by H2/18 to power it. And Key sense need to be hooked up to bypass module. This pictorial for the 2010 should also help.
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004~PN~1

Check this link for a pictorial. https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004

Thanks for the info. Still alittle confused for there are 4 connectors that came with the Viper 4704

Main harness, 6-pins  each pin is labeled H/1 thru H/6

Door lock, 3-pin labeld 1 thru 3

Remote Start, 8-pin labeled 1 thru 8 (H3 connector?)

Auxiliary/Shtudown harness 24-pin labeled h/1 thru H/24 (by the pin numbers in the post, H2/18, that pin is the Aux harness connector, H2 connector?)

Also, I'm alittle slow on the up take what is SPDT relay.

Again thanks for all the info

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

The 30 Flex on the H3/7  is that the same as the Flex Relay? There is no 30 Flex just eh flowing:

ON AUX/AHUTDAOWN HARNESS

(-) 200mA Flex relay control output

ON REMOTE START, 8-Pin connector

Pin 2 - RED / White  (+) 12VDC constant input for ignition2 & flex relays

Pin 6 - Pink/White (+) Ignition 1 / Flex relay output

Thanks for the help. I just don't want to screw this up.

Pin 7 - Pink/Black (+) Flex relay input 87A key side (if required) of Flex Relay

So I guess the question is which flex to hook up?

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

So here we go again.

I am trying to install the module that Viper said I needed to go with the Viper 4704 remote start I am installing in my truck (2009 Toyota Tacoma manual transmission). but I realize now why most don't like the Xpresskit brand (I think) no wiring instructions. What goes to what? what a mess I got myself into!

I NEED HELP!!!!!

Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

What "module" are we talking about? 

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Xpresskit nexgen module for all databus types. It doesn't give model # other than P/N DBALL. The wiring harness says DB-ALL harness kit.

When I went to Viper's website and did a search by vehicle for an remote start it said I needed the interface module.

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

I have looked everywhere the wiring diagrams and instructions have told me where the connector for the key immoblizer should be and I must be blind. Also does anyone know what the letter "L" stamped on a Toyota Tacoma key means? Might have to go to the dealer to find out I guess. Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

Try www.expresskit.com

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Thanks. I tried them but they didn't have anything for the Tacoma that I could find. Still looking there thou.

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

[QUOTE=smokeman1]Try www.expresskit.com[/QUOTE]

Thanks found the wiring info needed there after some looking around........Thanks again

Now I just need to find the correct connector f or the immoblizer..... any ideas?

All the connectors in the area of where it is said to be don't much the description.

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

You should have a 10, 12, anf 14 pin connectors

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the letter L on the key means that it is a lower type of transponder chip. i dont think they would stamp a letter on if it wasnt chipped. i know the higher level of toyota transponder key is stamped with a G and it took a while for any companies to make a bypass for "G keys".

also you need to have the RED / black wire hooked to a constant 12v source because this is the wire that feeds the starter circuit during remote start. this might be why your truck wont start.

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Are you sure the truck has a transponder immobilizer system?  Try wrapping the key head in 4 or 5 layers of aluminum foil ( or get a plain metal key made for $1.99 ) and try to start the truck. 

Did you remove both halves of the steering column cover to look for the transponder connector?

Are you sure the DB-ALL has the correct firmware flashed on it for your application?  The DB-ALL has over 15 different firmwares that it uses to support close to 2,000 different platforms.

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I am not sure.

The D-BALL I bought was the one that when I ran my make and model thru the Viper website said I needed. It could of been wrong abd that's what I get for not talking to a person vs. a machine. Anyways I will try the foil trick and see what happens.

Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

smokeman1 wrote:

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You should have a 10, 12, anf 14 pin connectors

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Of the three 10, 12, 14 which connector is the one I need to hook to for the TX & RX for the immoblizer? If I even have an transponder key.

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

Info from iDatalink for Tacoma 2005-2010  40 Bit Key

Transponder   7 Pin connector
Code (RX)       pin 4    Pink/Green (DATA)
TXCT (TX)        pin 5    LtGREEN/ Red (DATA)

Separate connector
Keysense      GREEN/ Black (-)       @ Ignition switch

Once again, are you sure the DB-ALL bypass module has the correct ( 401.TL1 Ver 2.19 ) firmware loaded on it?

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kreg357 wrote:

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Info from iDatalink for Tacoma 2005-2010  40 Bit Key

Transponder   7 Pin connector
Code (RX)       pin 4    Pink/Green (DATA)
TXCT (TX)        pin 5    LtGREEN/ Red (DATA)

Separate connector
Keysense      GREEN/ Black (-)       @ Ignition switch

Once again, are you sure the DB-ALL bypass module has the correct ( 401.TL1 Ver 2.19 ) firmware loaded on it?

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Thanks Kreg357 I have that info the issue I am having is that the 7-pin connector that the instructions and everyone has been telling me where it is, is not where it is said to be. So I do not know for sure if I even have the transponder key system on my truck.

Well come to find out no it does not have the correct firmware loaded in it. It has to be loaded prior to installation. Bad planning on my part. Guess either I need to go to a local install shop and see if they will upload it for me or by the XKLOADER caable to do it myself. wiz poor planning on my part.

Thanks for the help and info.... back to the drawing board.

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

c_hawks wrote:

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The 30 Flex on the H3/7  is that the same as the Flex Relay? There is no 30 Flex just eh flowing:

ON AUX/AHUTDAOWN HARNESS

(-) 200mA Flex relay control output

ON REMOTE START, 8-Pin connector

Pin 2 - RED / White  (+) 12VDC constant input for ignition2 & flex relays

Pin 6 - Pink/White (+) Ignition 1 / Flex relay output

Thanks for the help. I just don't want to screw this up.

Pin 7 - Pink/Black (+) Flex relay input 87A key side (if required) of Flex Relay

So I guess the question is which flex to hook up?

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Sorry was thinking 10 pin H3

• H3/2 RED / White_ to vehicle +12v WHITE/ Blue

• H3/6 Pink/White is Ignition 2 to vehicle BLUE / YELLOW

The 2009 is the same as 2010 so use this pictorial for reference.
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004

You will also need a additional relay for the second starter.

• H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT to additional relay( pin 86 and 87 to 12V+, pin 85 to H2/18(starter output), pin 30 to vehicle starter 2 wire (BLACK/ white) and pin 87a open.

Don't forget to add a Fuse between the WHITE/ Red (Vehicle) and 86 & 87 (Add on Relay) connection.

What type of relay do I need? and possible locations of finding it with out using online if I can?

What amp of fuse?

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

30 amp fuse and any local car stero shop (Around $5)should sell the to you or radioshack should have them for alot more money.

Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

Did you figure out the bypass? I use the Data/Combo type by xpresskit so as to limit the number of wires to hook up. But the other 2 brands are supposed to be good too.

I haven't found any info but now will check out what Xpresskit has. and the other manufactures. Found out that I don't have an immoblizer on my truck so maybe I'll exchange it for the data/Combo. Thanks for the help

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

Odds are you do NOT have a Transponder key. Only the V6 models come with it standard . You should install the remote start without the DBALL and see what happens. If everything works ok, send the DBALL back for a refund.

I finished installing a Viper 4704 remote start on my 2009 Toyota Tacoma 4 cylinder manual transmission. tested it and had 2 issues. 1) it would not start. It gave me the fault code (7 flashes of the status LED) Timer mode/ turbo mode/ manual mode error.Any suggestion on fixing it?

2) when I hooked everything up and connected the 8 pin connector (hooks to the ignition harness) to the remote start box my Air Bag light on my dash came on. Again any suggests on correcting it? Any help would be apprecaited. Thanks

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

As long as you did not disconnect ANY yellow airbag plugs you should not get a light. If so you will have to scan for codes to find the restraint system fault.

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Usually Toyota airbag lights can be reset by simply diconnecting the battery for a few minutes.

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c_hawks, many of your duplicate topics regarding this installation have been merged into this topic. Have a peek at our rules for more info.

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The 4704V Viper unit is Manual Transmission safe and comes from the factory set in that mode.  Your truck is has
a manual transmission, so it is a good match.  The seven blinks in your case mean that you have not successfully
placed the vehicle in "reservation mode" so that a remote startup is possible.  Read the owners manual to see the
steps required at vehicle exit to engage "reservation mode".

Additionally there are several things that are not specifically spelled out in the install guide that must be
done to make the system operate properly with a manual transmission.

The Door Pin ( either + or - ) must be properly connected.

The system must be set to Engine Checking = Tach Mode.  The Tach wire must be connected to a valid tach source
and the Viper must be Tach Learned.

The Neutral Safety wire should be run to the Parking Brake.

And of course the clutch pedal interlock must be properly bypassed during a remote start only.

 

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Thanks Kreg357. Now any ideas on why when H3 (8-pin connector) of the remote start accessory wire H3/3 Orange is connected I have constant +12V to the accessory system of the car causing the windows to operate if button pressed and the Air Bag light to remain on?

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

The Vipers H3/3 Orange wire should only output +12V at certain times during a remote start, never when the Viper is idle. 

With the vehicle OFF, pull the fuse in the H3/8 RED / Black wire and verify the +12V drops.  Then insert the fuse and see if it comes back.  Could be a bad Viper unit.   There is a work around.  Use a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay, controlled by H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT to power the 4Runners ACC1 wire.

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kreg357 the vehicle I am installing the viper 4704 is not a 4-runner it is a 2009 toyota tacoma 4 cylinder manual transmission. the12volt monitors combined my 2 posts to one. apparently I didn't read the rules for posting for 2 separate vehicles sorry for any confusion.

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C_Hawks
2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab
4 cylinder, manual trans

Sorry for my mix up.  The Viper wire info should be the same and still apply.

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