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2004 silverado, viper 5704, 530t

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=132488
Printed Date: May 25, 2024 at 7:13 AM


Topic: 2004 silverado, viper 5704, 530t

Posted By: pvcsilverado
Subject: 2004 silverado, viper 5704, 530t
Date Posted: October 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Hey guys< Im installing  aviper 5704 on a 2004 Chevy silverado with manual transmissionand im trying to bypass the clutch safety switch. Any body know whats the best way that i can acomplish that?

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Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: October 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM
If the starter wire passes through the clutch saftey switch you will need to connect the H3 VIOLET starter wire after the saftey switch.




Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM
Alright thanks !! Lurch!

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 25, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Im installing A  viper 5704 on a 04 Silverado and want to know what polarity + or - should i put it in? i am seeing  tha at the driver kick panel they are + brown wire and at the bcm their - gray/black wire. Also do i need to diode isolate the door triggers on this model it is a two door regular cab?



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 25, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Choose which ever Parking Light wire is most convenient for you, then set the Vipers' jumper/fuse
accordingly.  ( Using the (-) Parking Light wire will draw less current thru the Viper.)

Yes, you must diode isolate the door triggers into one input for the Viper.



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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 25, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Alrigth!! thanks kregg for quick response! You rock!

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Hey guys,I installed a viper 5704 with a db all on a 2004 chevy silverado.I am having trouble with the dball followed steps for programing all the way till the red light stays on red ready for the vehicle to be turned on but when i turn on the vehicle theres is no change on the light ,it supposed to go green for three secs and then shuts off but it stays solid red all the time!Can some one tell me what could it be?Thanks1

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Not a whole lot to connect with that install if you are going D2D.  Just the Data connection to the OBD2 Pin 2 wire.  My first thoughts would be - Is the correct firmware ( 401.GM4 ) flashed on the DB-ALL module?

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM
Yea thats what im thinking also,when i bought it I had it flashed but dont remember what firmwire im gonna refladoodie and what happens!thanks kregg!

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 1:40 PM
Reflash it and see!sorry

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 3:42 PM
It has the correct firmwire ,but heres a question does the tach wire need to be connected to the viper module ??i vonnected it to the module. does the obd2 carry the tach signal?maybe thast where the problem is.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM

I am not a fan of D2D and do not use many Directed bypass modules.  That being said, the Tach ( and the other 2-way
signals ) should be OK going D2D to the Viper.  The Tach signal from the DB-ALL has nothing to do with the DB-ALL
being programmed to the truck.

As far as I can see, you should be able to program the DB-ALL to your truck with only +12V, ground and the OBD2 Data
wires connected.  In your case the +12V and ground are coming thru the D2D harness from the Viper.  The DB-ALL
Violet / YELLOW wire from Pin 2 of the 14 Pin connector should be properly soldered to the Violet wire at Pin 2 of the OBD2
plug.



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Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM
Are you starting the truck or just turning the ignition on? 

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM
I am starting the truck,left it running for about 5 minutes.

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM
I am starting the truck,left it running for about 5 minutes.

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 30, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Hey guys

I am installing  a directed 530 t module on a 04 chevy silverad with a 5704 viper. do I need to connect the wires only on the drzivers door or do i need to  run wires to passenger door?this truck has the single push rooll down feature from factory on both windows. Do i need to do something special to keep that feature?thanks!



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 30, 2012 at 9:36 AM
I would think yes, the one shot up and down on the 530t only works if connected directly to both sets of motor wires.
There's a possibility your passenger window won't work if connected at driver's door.
Connected that way it will enhance the features.

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Thank u Howie !?i haveinstalled it but now the windows wont go up they stophalf way ,ihave the module to its max power !!any suggestions?

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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM
so i have installed a 530 t module on a 04 silvedo ,all connections are right but when the system arms the windows wont go up they stop half way,like if they neede more power!Has anyone found a solution for this??

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Posted By: shortcircuit161
Date Posted: October 31, 2012 at 1:15 PM
There is a section on the install manual for setting the dip switches to deal with higher resistance -

The 530T uses internal resistors to change the amount of force required to drive the window motors. These resistors are controlled by a group of dipswitches on the side of the module. Some vehicles use very efficient motors and little force is needed. This would require the switches to be set to a low setting. Some newer imports, such
as Honda Accords and Civics, may require a lower setting. Others use very inefficient motors, or the windows seem “harder” to roll up. Some examples would be older domestic cars, as well as many full-size pickups. These vehicles require the switches to be set to a higher setting.

Confirm the GWA from the alarm is connected to the correct GWA wire on the window module (not assuming you don't know how, but good to check). Also, I would also try grounding the Aux wire to test if the module will close the windows all the way.


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Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: October 31, 2012 at 2:37 PM
The dpi switches are already set to. the high resistancr setting. and already cheked trying grounding the aux and same thing happenned windows wont rooll up!


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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 31, 2012 at 6:33 PM
Check your voltage across Red and black you need to see a good 12.5V+. If not feed larger gauge power wires directly from the battery.
Also a good anti-seize on the window channels, WD-40 in a pinch.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 8:51 AM
For window channels a good cleaning and some spray ptfe dry lube. Otherwise the wet lubes will attrack dirt. You can lube up the motor arm pivots and roller guides and track with white lithium grease in a can as it won't melt or freeze. If the rollers have frozen up they will have flat spots and will need to be replaced. As frozen rollers can double the resistence to roll up the window.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Thanks for that info Lurch, I should have said use WD 40 when you have nothing else.
None-silicone lubricant of the type you stated is best.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 9:02 AM
BTW, lithium spray grease does wonders for the longevity of hood pin switches and any under hood connections.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Spray ptfe dry lube in a can is expensive ($9 US) but it's worth the money also can de used on door and any other weather seals. It drys almost isntantly, and won't rub off on clothes.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Are Wurth products available in the US? THey also do a silicone-free spray.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Never heard of them.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Silicone free dosen't mean tack free, which is what the ptfe is.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Google Wurth, major suppliers to auto manufacturers, I believe Detroit based in the US and yes their spray is PTFE.
Everything from trim tools and radio keys to fixings.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 01, 2012 at 11:35 PM
We have as many chemical suppliers here as you have pubs. So every company is selling sprays lubes solvents cleaners in a bottle with their name on it.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 02, 2012 at 3:15 AM
I take your point, it's just that Wurth are also major suppliers to car manufacturers and stealerships in the US.
BTW most of the pubs and gas stations have become apartment blocks or Indian bars/eating houses and the corner shops are now all Polish.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 02, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Wow didn't know things had changed that much there.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 02, 2012 at 8:01 PM
And very few red buses, they all seem to be owned by Galaxy or iPhone 5 or iPad Mini!
And the taxis are now Mercedes Vans!
Lots of Daewoos badged as Chevys plus Kia/Hyundai everywhere plus of course loads of self-righteous dick heads driving Prius and Smarts and getting in everyone else's way.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 02, 2012 at 10:30 PM
That's the effect of wealth consolidation to the few.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 03, 2012 at 2:44 AM
Of course that's the way it's been going since 2008.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 03, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Miniun wage here needs to be $3 an hour more than it is to equal the cost of living of 1968, and thats not counting the increased taxes that we pay now.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 03, 2012 at 1:40 PM
You loose half your jobs because people think you're too expensive but it nice when they come back to you with a f****d up car pleading for you to put it right.
I'm charging the same for the rare audio fits that I do nowadays as 30 years ago!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 03, 2012 at 2:13 PM
I don't believe in price matching hacks so if I lose a few jobs in the meantime by charging a little more, I won't be compared to them because I charge the same. The majority of people are choosing to learn the hard way today. It's like common sense has gone out the window. And know one wants to be informed about what they are buying they just want it yesterday.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 03, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Talk about great minds, read my last PM to you.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 03, 2012 at 11:54 PM
pvcsilverado wrote:

The dpi switches are already set to. the high resistancr setting. and already cheked trying grounding the aux and same thing happenned windows wont rooll up!



Did you get it sorted out?




Posted By: pvcsilverado
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 11:35 PM

]yes ! Got new window motors and guides ! they now roll all the way up!thanks



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Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: November 19, 2012 at 4:42 AM
Your welcome.





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