2004 jeep tj which system+bypass is best?

I'm going to get a remote start for my 2004 Jeep TJ soon and need help to decide what system and bypass to use.

The Jeep has no power door locks or anything, so wanted to have just a basic one-button remote. It does have a manual transmission.

I've narrowed it down to the Compustar PRO RF-1WBAM with a 6200 brain and blade ADS-AL bypass for the sentry key in the Jeep. The other option is the Viper Responder One 2-way, with a Fortin EVO-CHR bypass and DEI 689M for the manual trans compatibilty (I bought the 689M already, but can sell it if need be.) Or should I mix/match the bypasses/systems differently? I know the Compustar route would be more compact and not as many modules and has more options, but I do really like the remote on the Viper even though it is a more basic over-all system, and it's two-way.

I'd love to hear any recomendations and info please.

Thanks!

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Another good one-button system is the Crimestopper RS1-G3.
https://www.crimestopper.com/Templates/rs1-g3.html
It also integrates perfectly with iDatalink or Fortin modules.

But the Viper Responder is nice because it's 2-way so it gives you confirmation that it's running if you can't see the car when you press the button.

For bypass modules I prefer iDatalink and Fortin.
If it doesn't have factory alarm or door locks, the ADS-AL or EVO-CHR is a bit overkill IMO.
You can get one that just handles the Sentry key immobilizer - iDatalink ADS-TB (ADS-BLADE TB if using the Compustar)
or Fortin INT-SL+



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ah, I didn't notice the other bypasses would work and save a bit too, thank you!

The Fortin T-harness won't work with my 2004 TJ will it (it doesn't seem to in the install manual I found online, but wanted to be sure?)

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Unfortunately the harnesses won't work for your TJ. They started using those from 2008-up.



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Go with the Viper I have installed about 25 of them and every customer loves them! The Remotes last a long time and have an amazing range! You will not be disappointed!

I'm still undecided which to go with, the Compustar is about half the price once I include bypass/689M etc :(

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The Compustar 6200S will work with manual transmission without needing the 689M.

Just add the Compustar remotes (RF1BAM), the ADS-TB or INT-SL+ bypass and you're good to go.

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Looks like both will be about the same price in the end.

For the Compustar, the only way I can set the options I want is to get an OP500. Which in the end makes both the Viper system with a 689M and this Compustar the same price...

I hate deciding on this stuff! lol... ;)

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Looks like both will be about the same price in the end.

For the Compustar, the only way I can set the options I want is to get an OP500. Which in the end makes both the Viper system with a 689M and this Compustar the same price...

I hate deciding on this stuff! lol... ;)

Anyone use the FT-DAS from Compustar? It looks to be a decent backup safety for manual transmissions?

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Arg, still cant decide! lol...

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The OP-500 can be used more than once...     Consider the purchase as a tool, like a good DMM.   

Compustar systems are rock solid and work well with both Fortin and iDatalink products.

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Does the Viper 4203V Defrost wire come on always under 32* like other DEI stuff, or just always on with remote start? Whay sensor triggers that if under 32*?

For the Compustar, I'll need the OP500 (which like kreg just said might be a good tool to have, though I don't know anyone that does this stuff other than me around here.) I think I'll need a temp sensor too (which is fine if I do, its only $10.)

Spring will be here before I decide I think, lol...

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Anyone know about the 4203V Defrost wire?

I've also been reading about bypasses and W2W or D2D, for my Jeep ('04 TJ), which has no power locks or windows, will I need to worry about this with either the BLADE-TB for the Compustar or the INT-SL+ if I go Viper?

I still dunno which to get either, lol :(

Thanks :)

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The Compustar and Blade system actually has a slot for the Blade cartridge to slide into.  This slot has pins that the Blade cartridge mates up with on insertion.   With this setup, there is no W2W or D2D.   A very neat, compact and reliable package. 

Not sure if the Viper 4203V has a programmable Defrost output wire but the Compustar does. 

The standard Factory programmed Fortin INT-SL+ bypass module can not go D2D with the Viper.  The INT-SL+ could go D2D with the Compustar.  For the amount of wires that are necessary for your application in W2W mode mode, it shouldn't be a big issue.  The big plus for using W2W mode is reliability.

Your main hurdle with using the Compustar and Blade combo is getting the Blade cartridge flashed with the correct firmware for your Jeep.  Flashing requires a special ADS USB cable and registered access to the restricted iDatalink WEB site.

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The Viper does have a defrost wire, just not sure if it's like the other Viper stuff that works only under 32* as the manual doens't say anything other than how to hook it up.

I'm leaning towards the Compustar I think (bit less wiring), but I already have a 689M if i go Viper, and do like it's remotes better. I'd need an OP500 for the Compustar and temp sensor too, as programming POCs isn't possible with just a remote, so thats extra cost. In the end both will be similar cost I think, thats why I'm having such a hard time deciding...

Thanks for the info, please keep it coming and help me decide! I need to order this soon!

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I could be wrong ( not a big Viper user ) but I don't think the 689M module is necessary with the newer, manual trans capable, Viper systems.  Looks like the Viper 420X systems are in this group.  Here is a Viper bullet item in its' description :  •Manual Transmission remote start enabled

Some of the Viper programming options are only accessible with the BitWriter. 

With the Compustar systems, you can go without the temp sensor.  Just add a switch to the Defrost output wire and turn it on in the fall and off in the spring.  But the temp sensor is fairly inexpensive.

Both systems are good, high quality units.  For most customers, it's the remotes appearance that is the deciding factor.

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I need the 689M for sure for the Viper 4203V. It took a few emails from DEI to confirm this thou, lol. It uses a different brain than others. Thats why I'm not sure if it does activate at the 32*.

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For the compustar, if you have a idatalink account to flash the modules, you can program the features of the compustar right on the weblink without needing a op-500.

Ideal would be a cm6200, blade, and 1bam remotes. Nice and clean install.


The responder one viper needs the 689m, it is based like an avital 4103. The mainstream models for viper (5101) have it built in like the compustar. but don't come in a 2 way 1 button setup.


cant go wrong with the compustar. i switched over to compustar from dei and am not looking back. it is a much better quality product, may cost a little more, but the quality is there.


If you don't have a idatalink weblink account, you need to be a professional shop to have it. The programmer adapter can be found online though.

Arg, I need to decide this weekend, lol... Theres supposed to be snow and colder temps next week plus ;)

Anyone use the Compustar FT-DAS yet with a manual, it looks interesting?

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Hmm I wonder if my other thread can be merged with this one? This is getting confusing! lol..

With the Compustar, if someone drives it that leaves it in gear (like my brother does usually,) it will not set reservation or keep running/jump if he just shuts it off without letting off the brake with it in gear, right? This is the only part that worries me even with a manual trans ready RS. At least with the Viper I can tell it when I'm ready, or am I worrying to much and its reliable/works well? :(

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The Compustar system is pretty fool-proof.

I had a Compustar CM6200 in a manual transmission 2006 Honda Civic LX for several years.  The
sequence to set reservation mode was very easy.  It begins with just coming to a stop and engaging
the Parking Brake.  With the shifter in neutral, release the clutch, take your foot off the brake
pedal and remove the ignition key.  The vehicle will remain running.  Exit the vehicle and when the
Compustar sees the last door close it will lock all the doors and stop the idling engine.  You can
program this the happen immediately or 10 seconds after the last open door is closed.  At that point
the Compustar knows the Parking Brake is ON, the transmission is in neutral and all the doors are closed
and locked.  If any door or the trunk is opened prior to the next remote start-up, reservation mode is
canceled. 

There are devious ways to cause problems, like leaving a window down and crawling into the vehicle to
move the shifter into gear.  Also, Compustar does not recommend installing any R/S sysyem into a manual
transmission convertible.  If you are uncomfortable with a R/S in a manual trans vehicle, don't do it.
There are plenty of installers that refuse to install R/S systems in MT vehicles due to the liability
issues.

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Thanks kreg,

I'm going to be getting a FT-DAS with it it looks like to be extra safe.  Though with the FT-DAS and the 6200 brain, I only get movement and tilt sensors, not shock for some reason (so Firstech tells me,) but in a manual trans vehicle those would be the most important anyways.

I wont be using this in the summer with the top off, just in the winter with the hardtop. I was thinking of putting a switch on the brains power wires so theres no draw at all in the summer or when I don't want to use it.

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Finally got around to installing this now that the great weather is here, lol ;)

I was wondering about the ebrake input, dei says to use the gray/white wire at black connector behind ip. I tested this and it shows ground when ebrake is on which is good, but it just opens when its off. Will the Compustar be ok with this?
Thanks

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