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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=132696
Printed Date: May 16, 2024 at 5:48 PM


Topic: prestige ss9600

Posted By: ksvista
Subject: prestige ss9600
Date Posted: November 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Installing a new ss9600 in cadillac srx. I think I've got the basic connections. However, when I press the remote start button 2x's relays click approx 10X's car wont remote start. dispy on remote says inhibit. How can I confirm the flcan is working?

help




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Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM
2005 cadillac srx




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 17, 2012 at 5:41 PM
Leave the key in the ignition (off).
If it then succeeds in starting your by-pass either isn't working or incorrectly programmed or needs a flash upgrade.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 17, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Still no start with key in the ignition in the off pos.

I've made the following connections and verified

Acc

IGN1

Bat1

Bat2

start

data connection between ss9600 and flcan

OBD connection to flcan

ign+ to flcan

Lock and unlock work fine so I know the data connection works





Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 17, 2012 at 8:59 PM
sorry this is a ss6900. Just need some help I must be missing something




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM
How do you have the tachometer setting programmed? Default is for tachometer sensing, and the unit won't work until you do something with those settings.

Three choices (this applies to any installation, not just your Cadillac):

1: Connect GREEN/ orange tachometer wire to appropriate wire in car, and go through the "tach learning" routine in the installation manual.

2: Program for "DBI Tach" if the FLCAN guide shows that the unit supplies tach through the data-to-data cable (orange dotted lines)

3: Program for voltage sensing, change the "voltage level" to the non-default setting too. If your car doesn't have a traditional positive-trigger starter wire, also change the Crank Averaging setting to "pre-set time."


If you don't do one of those three things, the parking lights will just flash seven times when you try to activate the remote starter.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM
Thanks Chris, wondering when (or hoping) you would see this thread.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 5:16 PM

hey guys thanks for helping a newbe. that did the trick.

Any idea what the color code is for the defrost wire on a 2005 cadillac srx? I checked other forums and could not locate a schematic.





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 5:36 PM
Between rear seat, right hand side and door is the rear loom under carpet edge.
White wire, pulsed (momentary) ground with engine running will trigger it. TEST FIRST and VERIFY.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 6:26 PM

sorry i should have been more clear. The SRX has dual climate control that resets everytime you start. I've started to probe the wires behind the climate control and can so far only turn the fan on high with a ground. I would like to be able to have the fan on high and the front defrost on.

thanks again!





Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

i have found the wire on the back of the climate control that when you press the defrost button it rises from 3-12 volts for 1sec. however when i apply 12 volts to the same wire via a relay the defrost does not kick on. I have also identified the wires that when you apply ground the fan goes to high and the air comes through the AC vents.

does this make any sense:)





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 19, 2012 at 1:40 AM
Yes you apply a NEG (-) pulse.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 19, 2012 at 5:58 AM

yest the neg pulse turns the fan on high but the the dampers for the defrost do not redirect to the windshield. I just get heat on the feet.  

i have found the wire on the back of the climate control that when you press the defrost button it rises from 3-12 volts for 1sec but i cannot seem to activae it





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 19, 2012 at 6:00 AM
Why the repeated running around in circles?
I've ALREADY told you where the wire is, what colour and how to test activate it.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM

my bad. i thought the wire you were referring to was for the rear defrost and not the front. Ill give it a shot

thanks





Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 19, 2012 at 8:02 PM

White wire, pulsed did not activate the front defrost.

thanks





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM
I'm sorry I thought it was the rear you were after that's the norm.
What happens if you set up the defrost then turn off the ignition?
Does it come back on when you turn the ignition on again?
That's how I do it.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ksvista
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 5:19 AM

that would work.  i am just looking for a little more automation. i have probed every wire on the back of the climate control and can turn the fan on high and move the damper to the AC position only. just cant get the damper to the defrost position.

I am so close.

I can acutally see the damper actuator just cant reach it to apply ground pluse.





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 5:34 AM
Be careful, the actual actuator won't have a ground pulse it will have two "motor" wires what you're looking for is either written code in the BECU via DATA so forget or a relay output to that actuator.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 8:10 AM
yea, interfacing climate controls, especially in high end cars can be tricky or impossible without an interface device. chances are that the climate control panel goes straight to a computer controller which translates into different actions.

continue at your own risk!

you say that the wire goes from 3v to 12v when you push the defrost button. perhaps that wire needs to cut from the controller when you apply 12v. the fact that you are seeing a voltage shift probably means that the controls could be resistance based. does that wire do anything else when you push any other buttons? or is is just related to the defroster?

if you want to get a little more extreme you can open the control panel and see how hard it would be to solder directly onto both sides of the defrost button then connect those two wires through a relay which would directly simulate the button press.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 8:20 AM
I see repair bills and $$$$$$$.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM
indeed it is a good possibility that this could end up in the repair shop, i did say that this was risky business, but nothing interesting would ever be learned by just leaving these things alone. if he is brave enough to try and knows the risks then i feel the least i can do is help

honestly, im probably about to try something like this on my own truck except that i want to interface the max ac controls so that they come on even if i have them turned off. it wouldnt be such a big problem if louisiana didnt have such random weather.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Oh hell, I ripped the Lear made BCM apart on my own Rover (basically a FWD 5 Series BMW), to get deadlock on arm and normal RPM locking having driven off, plus mirror slope on reverse etc. etc.
I had the advantage though of a downloaded factory service manual.
I would heartily recommend that and the ability to read and understand the flow patterns.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 10:06 AM
howie ll wrote:

Oh hell, I ripped the Lear made BCM apart on my own Rover (basically a FWD 5 Series BMW), to get deadlock on arm and normal RPM locking having driven off, plus mirror slope on reverse etc. etc.
I had the advantage though of a downloaded factory service manual.
I would heartily recommend that and the ability to read and understand the flow patterns.


you must have been bored that day... what could possibly be gained by interfacing the mirror slope on reverse?


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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 20, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Spot on there young man, I reverse back parallel to the kerb on my off-street parking area, don't want to damage my tyres.
That day I also extended the lead from the factory auto-changer so I could move it from the glovebox to under the passenger seat, got rid of the original CD Sat -Nav and analogue (no longer used in the UK) TV tuner, now lots of space for WD, moisture displacer, long cable ties and all the test gear in the rear side pockets.
I think I've now made room for one of the original Bazooka amplified tubes in the cargo area (it's a Tourer, A.K.A station wagon).

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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