can remote start permanently disable

It appears my factory immobilization system is disabled all the time with remote start installed. Light never blinks when locked on dashboard? It is nissan pathfinder 2010 with aftermarket inoperable remote start in it from prev. Owner. I have no fob for remote start. I am thinking a hidden key may be under dashboard somewhere for immob. Bypass unit but do not see one yet? Could this be a culprit?

It is an older hornet 569t remote start unit under dash.

Truck will also not go into program mode for keyless entry fob programming?

you have to cut the security light wire usually to install a bypass in a new pathfinder so maybe the bypass was unplugged which means that the wire to the light is actually cut in half. can you take the lower dash panel off? its very easy, you just take out screw out on the lower right side of the panel and on the left side there will be a small panel to unsnap and another screw underneath it. those should be the only screws and pull the panel to unsnap the clips.

try to find the bypass or at least any wires that go to the system.

the alarm needs to see a signal on the doorpin wire and be connected to the ignition wire at the main ignition harness before it will go into program mode. either that or the program mode has been locked by someone with a bitwriter.

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Thanks Soundnsecure...I will take that panel off and get a better look in there. I have found the remote start module but not the bypass unit yet, with panel,off I should be able to see more of the wiring to see where it goes or if some are cut...and maybe see a bypass unit or key up there...

I have read you can zip tie a key near the ignition in lieu of purchasing a proper bypass unit but I cannot see up that far until I get that panel off, thanks again. Would a key there prevent factory immobilizer from arming when locked?

Yes. Either the key or a part of it (the RFID chip) not near but attached to the plastic "antenna" shroud around the key barrel, 3-5 screws underneath to remove upper and lower steering column cowling.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

howie ll wrote:

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Yes. Either the key or a part of it (the RFID chip) not near but attached to the plastic "antenna" shroud around the key barrel, 3-5 screws underneath to remove upper and lower steering column cowling.

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the key cylinder is on the dash on a pathfinder not on the steering column. its kind of a pain to get to too.

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if someone has fixed a key or chip near the key cylinder then you would have to start the truck with a regular non-chipped key. using a chipped key would not start the truck because it would see the signal from two different keys at the same time.

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I have seen numerous setups like this online where people had to give up one of their keys for bypass module and still used other chipped key to start?

I have seen the key loops that go around cylinder antenna, will look for one just in case

Actually, with nearly all makes of vehicle EXCEPT Ford and Mazda, the second chip DOESN'T interfere with the first so the OP is quite correct.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

UPDATE: my factory alarm system(Horn and lights)still works...tried the door lock trick again (lock truck then open from inside handles...and horn and lights went off so that is good. I am assuming at this point the wire is cut to security indicator light or the bulb to it is burnt out. I hope it is wire as I do not want to pull instrument cluster out to replace bulb...more than likely wire is cut somewhere as it was posted this is normal practice to install remote starts (immbolizer bypass)

if your pathfinder is the same as my frontier then the security light wire is coming from the BCM which should be above the steering column towards the right side of the column. i think it is a GREEN/ orange wire. if you stick your head under the dash by the gas pedal and look straight up then you should be able to see it if that is where they made the connection. you should also see some other wires connected in this location.

if this is the case then you will also need to re connect the ignition wire that also would be cut in order to install a bypass. not sure what color it would be but it would be the only other wire at the bcm that should be cut.

maybe try posting a picture of the area and i could be of more help to you.

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I know by serv manual that security indicator is connected to fusebox j/b at fuse 19 and to bcm at location 23 at port 18. It says wire is green and I do see bcm to right and above gas pedal. I will look for green wire and ignition as well. If you need full service manual I found site for all nissans that has fsm in .pdf file format. It really helps and I downloaded entire manual. Thanks again!

Got indicator light working!...wire was cut in half and run into remote start harness. Reconnected wire and it came right on! Works correctly now flashing every few seconds. Now....I cannot get truck into program mode with key in and out of ignition to program new keyless fob. I have tried a million times with varying speeds...no flashing lights to indicate program mode....ugggh

you cant get the truck into program mode or the alarm into program mode?

cool, im glad my gut instinct was right about the wire and i would definitely like to get the link to the service manuals if you dont mind.

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Just do google search for: nicoclub/fsm, then select year and model. All of them are there in full PDF glory! I cannot get truck into program mode. Remote system is disabled as I pulled fuses to it. Program mode didn't work with them in there either. Thanks for all of your help with this.

https://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/

not sure but it might have something to do with the ignition wire i mentioned earlier that also would need to be cut in order to install the bypass. if the security light was cut then the ignition wire is probably cut too. i have no idea what functions depend on that ignition wire but its a good place to start looking. just like an alarm needs to see an ignition input, the trucks BCM probably needs to see it too and a bypass probably uses it the same way to trick the bcm into operating the locks and bypassing the antitheft.

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Thanks...I will lookup ignition wire specifics ( color and location on BCM) in manual and try that next!

Update...solved all issues by having Ziebart install new remote start & security system. Two new fobs and new security LEDs in windshield and oem security light still works...looks like Christmas inside my truck at night with all the flashing LEDs...ha. Happy holidays all!

Ziebart lifetime warranty and free fob battery's for life. Plus security sensor on vehicle is very sensitive...put hitch cap in and car started warning me to stop tapping on it....I gotta get used to this ...pursuit pro 9776c system

im sure the shock sensor can be turned up or down if you want. if you get a warn trigger at the hitch from just a little vibration then you will probably want to rip the thing out when the next storm rolls through.

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