2012 optima pts, viper responder one

I am trying to install a Viper Responder One on a 2012 Optima PTS. I have gotten all of the wires hooked up i believe to be correctly. When I try to activate the trigger wire the ignition turns on but the starter will not engage. I get about 150mV on the starter wire shown in the fortin evo-all guide.

Does it seem odd that you connect a large 30A output to starter wire to the small gray wire in the car? Is the gray wire just an output wire to engage the starter?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Not too odd for an aftermarket remote starter unit to have thick ignition wires.  These units were designed to
support a wide variety of vehicles and all the older cars needed the thick wires while some of the newer vehicles
don't. 

Did you connect all the Vipers' fused power wires to +12V constant.  Not familiar with the Viper Responder One
unit but going by the install guide in the Downloads section there appear to be two Red power wires.

Did you connect the EVO-ALL to the Viper in the W2W mode?

Did the EVO-ALL respond properly during programming?

Do the other functions ( lock, unlock, trunk release, etc ) work OK?

Did you connect the Viper Neutral Safety Switch wire to chassis ground if the Optima is an Auto Trans vehicle?

Did you plug in and turn to ON the NSS?

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Have both the red +12V connected.

Connected in W2W mode.

The EVO-ALL programmed correctly.

Its only a remote start system so all the smartkey functions still work.

I have the neutral safety switch grounded, forgot this initially.

NSS assuming that is the neutral safety switch?

I havent tried to see what the gray starter wire gets for voltage by a normal start yet.

When I ground the activate wire the ignition will turn on and the doors will unlock. Waits at this for a few seconds then locks the doors and rearms the system.

Sounds good. 

Did you connect the EVO-ALL Dark Blue (-) While Running wire to the Vipers'   BLUE STATUS OUTPUT wire on the
4-pin satellite harness?

Did you program the Viper to Tach Mode and do the Tach Learn process?

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That was one wire I wasnt sure if it was right but i do have those two connected.

I havent programmed the Viper to tach mode yet. I will give that a try.

Went through the tach learn on the viper and still nothing.

I checked the gray start wire voltage at normal start and didnt get much from that although my meter is pretty slow.

This shows what wires i have connected where on the viper.

All looks good.  Can't think of anything else, unless you have the connections to the CAN wires reversed.

Does the Viper give any type of failed remote start Shutdown Diagnostic output ?

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Did the shutdown diagnostics and am getting the + brake shutdown code.

i unhooked the brake wire and now the car will remote start. However, when I enter the vehicle and press the pts button twice to turn on the ignition it will turn amber for acc, then off. I cannot shut the car down with the pts button. I have to use the viper remote.

pushing the button twice and hitting the brake should shut down the starter and let the car take over. But since you disconnected the remote starts brake input it doesn't know your hitting the brake. The car should shut down when it times out though. I've done a few of these using the Fortin evo-all and had no issues also have used the idata ads al ca with out issue

Do you have the vipers brake input going to the evo alls black brake out put on the 20 pin connector ?

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I did have the brake input hooked up but that was causing the system not to start. It would send enough voltage to the brake input to cause the system to shutdown. Once this was disconnected the system would remote start but now it will not shutdown without timing out or using the remote.

I want to hook the brake safety back up but with it hooked up the remote start will not kick on the starter.

Did you put a meter on the brake output of the evo-all to see if it gets power under remote start ? Maybe a bad module ?

I had a similar problem on Saturday with an ads-al-ca. With the tach hooked up from the data module to the remote start module the starter wouldn't output a start signal. When I disconnected the tach wire the car would crank. The tach wire from the data module was outputting 12 v when the start command was sent

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I will have to check the brake output on the evo-all to see what it is giving me for voltage.

Might be a foolish question but I didn't notice if it was answered before. Are you connecting the brake wire to the car's brake switch directly or to the EVO-ALL foot brake output?

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To the Evo-All foot brake output, black wire.

Try connecting it directly to the brake light switch.
Brake Light     GREEN (+)     BRAKE SWITCH WHITE 4 PIN CONN, PIN 1

Then it should work just fine even if the evo all is having issues this will bypass it. Let us know how it works out for you .

Hooked up to the brake wire directly and that seemed to work.

I do have another possible issue.

I currently dont have the activation input on the viper connected to anything and the car will still remote start. Is this a problem?

Also this might be normal for bypassing the securtiy but when you remote start the car will unlock, start, then relock after 10 or so seconds.