viper 5704 into 2002 f350 diesel

I’m in need of some pointers and help installing a Viper 5704 into a 2002 F350 Diesel. I’d like to see if someone can verify what I've done so far and if it’s correct. Also needing additional help with the other connections.

In addition to the standard Viper 5704 alarm I’m also adding a 506T glass breakage sensor, 507M tilt sensor, 508D Proximity radar motion sensor, 530T Window control module.

Keep in mind my vehicle details:

2002 F350 Diesel Superduty XLT four door crew cab
Four wheel drive
No key phobe, just a regular key with separate remote push button OEM security.
No rear window defrost, just a regular full length rear window.

So far I’ve done:

-Main Harness, 6-pin connector

-H1/1: Red, (+)12VDC Constant Input. [found constant 12VDC and connected]
-H1/2:Black, (-) Chassis ground. [Connected to chassis ground]
-H1/3:Brown, (+) Siren Output. [Connected to red wire in siren]
-H1/4:WHITE/ Brown, Parking light isolation wire-pin 87a of onboard relay [not used]
-H1/5:White, Parking light output. [connected to parking light + wire, verified and works]
-H1/6:Orange, (-)500mA Ground when armed output, [Don’t know where to connect]

Aux/Shutdown/Trigger Harness, 24-pin connector

-H2/1:Pink/White, (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex relay control output [don’t know if I need this connection]
-H2/2:BLACK/ White, (-) Neutral safety input. [connected to chassis ground]
-H2/3:Blue/White, (-) 200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output [don’t know if I need this]
-H2/4:GREEN/ Black, (-) 200mA OEM Alarm disarm output. [don’t know where to connect or which wire]
-H2/5:RED / White, (-) 200mA Truck Release output. [not used, truck do not have trunks]
-H2/6:Green, (-) Door trigger input (n/c or n/o). [did not use, don’t know if I need this one]
-H2/7:BLACK / YELLOW, (-) 200mA Done light supervision output. [did not use, don’t know if I need this one]
-H2/8:BROWN / Black,(-)200mA Horn honk output. [Connected to (+) side of horn, did not work, need help]
-H2/9:Dark Blue, (-) 200mA status output. [don’t know where to connect]
-H2/10:Pink, (-) 200mAIgnition 1 output. [don’t know where to connect]
-H2/11:WHITE/ Black, (-) 200mA AUX 3 output. [Don’t know if I need this]
-H2/12:Violet, (+) door trigger input. [connected to BLACK/ blue wire in drivers kick panel, opens all doors]
-H2/13:WHITE/ Violet, (-) 200mA Aux 1 output. [don’t know if I need this]
-H2/14:Violet/Black, (-) 200mA Aux 2 output. [don’t know if I need this]
-H2/15:ORANGE / Black, (-) 200mA Aux 4 output. [don’t know if I need this]
-H2/16:Brown, (+) Brake Shutdown Input. [don’t know what this is or where to connect it]
-H2/17:Grey, (-) Hood pin input (n/c or n/o). [don’t know if I need this, or where to connect]
-H2/18:Violet / YELLOW, (-) 200mA Starter output. [don’t know where to connect this one]
-H2/19:Blue, (-)Truck pin/instant trigger input (n/c or n/o). [don’t know if I need, or where to connect]
-H2/20:Grey/Black, (-) Diesel Wait to start input. [I’m pretty sure I need this but don’t know where to connect]
-H2/21:WHITE/ Blue, (-) Remote start/turbo timer activation input. [don’t know if I need or where to connect]
-H2/22:Orange, (-) 200mA Accessory output. [Don’t know if I need, or where to connect]
-H2/23:Violet/White, tachometer input. [probably need this, don’t know where to connect]
-H2/24:GREEN / WHITE, (-) 200mA OEM alarm arm ouput. [don’t know where to connect]

Remote Start, 10-pin heavy gauge connector

-H3/1:Pink, (+) Ignition 1 input/output. [connected to RED / Green wire in ignition harness]
-H3/2:RED / White, (+) Fused (30A) ignition 2 / Flex relay input 87. [don’t know if I need this]
-H3/3:Orange, (+) Accessory Output. [connected to Blue/green wire in ignition harness]
-H3/4:Violet, (+) Starter output (car side of the starter kill). [Don’t know where to connect this]
-H3/5:Green, (+) Starter input (key side of the starter kill). [Don’t know where to connect this]
-H3/6:Red, (+) Fused (30A)ignition 1 input. [Don’t know where to connect this]
-H3/7:Pink/White, (+) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay output. [connected to RED / Black wire in ignition harness]
-H3/8:Pink/Black, (+) Flex relay input 87a key side (if required) of flex relay. [don’t know if I need this]
-H3/9:RED / Black, (+) Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter input. [don’t know if I need this]
-H3/10: not used

-H2/8:BROWN / Black,(-)200mA Horn honk output. [Connected to (+) side of horn, did not work, need help]
Horn Trigger      Blue (-)   @ steering column or VSM     Be careful testing here, Ford has a bad habit of putting this wire with the airbag wires...

-H2/16:Brown, (+) Brake Shutdown Input. [don’t know what this is or where to connect it]
Brake Wire      Light Green (+)       @ brake pedal switch

-H2/17:Grey, (-) Hood pin input (n/c or n/o). [don’t know if I need this, or where to connect]
Install hood pin supplied in kit and connect this wire.

-H2/20:Grey/Black, (-) Diesel Wait to start input. [I’m pretty sure I need this but don’t know where to connect]
Use tech Tip 1091 or just set Viper to fixed 15 second WTS delay, Menu 3, Item 9, Opt 2.
Link to TechTip 1091  :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1016
On the remote start, make sure to program the Accessory State During Wait To Start to ON.

You should use a Digital Multi Meter to test and verify these ignition wires....
-H3/1:Pink, (+) Ignition 1 input/output               [connected to RED / Light Green wire in ignition harness]
-H3/2:RED / White, (+) Fused (30A) ignition 2 / Flex relay input 87.    Yellow @ Ign Harness
-H3/3:Orange, (+) Accessory Output      connected to Dark Blue/Light Green wire in ignition harness]
-H3/4:Violet, (+) Starter output (car side of the starter kill).       cut Dark Green @ IGN Harness
-H3/5:Green, (+) Starter input (key side of the starter kill).      cut Dark Green @ IGN Harness
-H3/6:Red, (+) Fused (30A)ignition 1 input.    connected to Yellow wire in ignition harness
-H3/7:Pink/White, (+) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay output. [    connected to RED / Black wire in ignition harness]   Set Viper to Flex relay = ACC2
-H3/8:Pink/Black, (+) Flex relay input 87a key side  of flex relay.       not used
-H3/9:RED / Black, (+) Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter input.   connected to Light GREEN/ Purple wire in ignition harness
-H3/10: not used

Have you gotten & used a plain metal key as an ignition key to verify you don't have a transponder immobilizer system?

Did the truck come with Factory Remote Keyless Entry?  This info will help connecting the power door locks.

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Thanks kreg357,
Purchased the truck used, got a plain metal key. I know its not a transponder because I got a spare make at Lowes. The remote is a little black plastic remote with three buttons on it, lock, unlock, and panic.

Please clarify a couple of thing for me.

Ignition harness: is the harness at bottom of steering column
Ignition: is the wires that come from the key

My ignition harness has nine wires:
Green
GREEN/ purple
2 (two) solid yellow
Grey / YELLOW
Blue/orange
Blue/green
RED / black
RED / green

Your telling me that the right way to connect the alarm remote start is to connect all these wires at the IGN wire harness at bottom of steering column?

Pink to RED / green
RED / white to yellow (? which yellow there are two at the IGN harness)
Orange to Blue/green
Violet to cut dark green (Please explain "cut dark green", there is only one green.
Green to cut dark green (Please explain "cut dark green", there is only one green.
Red to yellow (which yellow there are to at the IGN harness)
Pink/white to RED / black
Pink/black not used
RED / black to GREEN/ purple

Sorry just making sure, don't want to blow up my truck.

Thanks a bunch.

To do this properly, you will need to test each wire to verify its' function.  Here is what the wire
guides indicate for your truck.  You can connect the Viper's thick H3 wires to the trucks ignition
wires at any convenient place along the ignition harness after it leaves the ignition switch.

Dark Green          Starter
Light GREEN/ purple          +12V constant  
2 (two) solid yellow          +12V constant both, we'll call them Yellow1 and Yellow2
Grey / YELLOW           Accessory1
Blue/orange         not listed
Blue/Light Green Accessory2           x    
RED / black             Accessory3 (or Ignition2) x
RED / Light Green Ignition1

Big question : Do the Gray / YELLOW and RED / Black wires share a ignition switch pin ( or are connected in some way )?
Viper     to    F350

Pink to RED / green Yes
RED / white to yellow1      Yes
Orange to Blue/Light Green       Yes
Violet to cut dark green    truck side   The Viper has a built-in Starter Kill relay circuit.  When the Viper is 
Green to cut dark green   ign switch side     armed or in alarm, the ign key will not start the engine.
Red to yellow2   Yes
Pink/white to RED / black Yes ( maybe set to ACC2 )
Pink/black not used         Yes
RED / black to GREEN/ purple           Yes

This setup would still leave the Gray / YELLOW ACC wire un-powered.  You will need an extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay and
20 Amp fuse to power this ignition wire.  Use the Vipers H2/22 Orange wire as follows :
Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/22 Orange (-)200mA Accessory Output
Relay Pins 86 anf 87 to +12V constant  ( Light GREEN/ Purple ) thru 20A fuse
Relay Pin 30 to truck Gray / YELLOW
Relay Pin 87A not used - insulate

As you noted, it is very important to make good, soldered, connections to the correct wires.  Guessing won't work. 

Using a DMM ( or computer safe LED test light ) on the ignition wires is the only way to be sure.

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Thanks so much for the help.

Big question : Do the Gray / YELLOW and RED / Black wires share a ignition switch pin ( or are connected in some way )? No, these two wires are not connected together, they both are attached to an individual connector on the IGN Harness.

Also,
Could you please explain "Relay pins", not clear on which pins you me and where they are located.

Thanks again, Ed

If both the Gray / YELLOW and the Red Black wires join together at the same ignition switch connector pin, then you can connect the Vipers' output wire to
either one ( thicker one preferred ) and that will supply both with power during a remote start.  In this case you have made all the necessary ignition wire
connections and do not need an extra relay.

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Hey there,
My apologizes for being such a pain. I'm trying to find the key side green wire to attach my alarms remote start green wire (cut off key side green wire). I've tried using a volt meter to find it in the steering column with no luck. Is there any way you could point this out to me?

Much appreciated.
Ed

Buy the way, just to confirm. All the ignition harness connections are in line connections with the exception of the Green key side cut off wire, right? The alarm green wire goes connected to the key side green wire right?

Ed

To do this properly, you will need to read up and understand relay operation.  This site has a nice relay section.

The trucks ignition switch connector has a Green Starter wire in it.  This wire leaves the ignition switch and travels to some circuits
in the truck.  Somewhere in or near the steering column, you will cut this Green Starter wire.  The Vipers H3/5 Green wire will be
soldered to the cut Green wire side that goes to the ignition switch ( key side ).  The Vipers H3/4 Violet wire will be securely soldered
to the cut Green Starter wire side that goes toward the trucks circuit ( vehicle side ).

Be aware that the Viper has other wire(s) that are Green so it is best to use the connector / pin location to identify the wires we
refer to.  Eliminates any confusion.

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Kregg if an extra relay IS required, DIODE DIODE DIODE DIODE

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Okay I think I'm starting to get this. Just to make it clear for anyone else wondering what the cut green to starter/key side means. You actually have to "cut" the green starter wire (did not know this) and attach the violet wire to the "cut" green wire now going to the starter and the other "cut" green wire that now leads to the key side. Silly me, I finally realized I had to "actually cut" the green wire. Daaaa!

Anyway,
I think I'm close to being done with the standard alarm install. Could you please double check me.

Thanks

-Main Harness, 6-pin connector

-H1/1: Red, (+)12VDC Constant Input. [connected]
-H1/2:Black, (-) Chassis ground. [Connected]
-H1/3:Brown, (+) Siren Output. [Connected]
-H1/4:WHITE/ Brown, Parking light isolation wire-pin 87a of onboard relay [not used]
-H1/5:White, Parking light output. [connected]
-H1/6:Orange, (-)500mA Ground when armed output, [Not Connected, do I need this or is optional?]

Aux/Shutdown/Trigger Harness, 24-pin connector

-H2/1:Pink/White, (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex relay control output [Not connection, don't think I need this]
-H2/2:BLACK/ White, (-) Neutral safety input. [Connected to ground on Chassis]
-H2/3:Blue/White, (-) 200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output [Not connected/ not used]
-H2/4:GREEN/ Black, (-) 200mA OEM Alarm disarm output. [Connection Pending]
-H2/5:RED / White, (-) 200mA Truck Release output. [Not Connected/Not used]
-H2/6:Green, (-) Door trigger input (n/c or n/o). [Not Connected/Dont' know if I need]
-H2/7:BLACK / YELLOW, (-) 200mA Done light supervision output. [Connection Pending]
-H2/8:BROWN / Black,(-)200mA Horn honk output. [Connected]
-H2/9:Dark Blue, (-) 200mA status output. [Not Connected/Do I need this one?]
-H2/10:Pink, (-) 200mA Ignition 1 output. [Not Connected/is this one optional?]
-H2/11:WHITE/ Black, (-) 200mA AUX 3 output. [Not Connected]
-H2/12:Violet, (+) door trigger input. [connected to BLACK/ blue wire in drivers kick panel, opens all doors]
-H2/13:WHITE/ Violet, (-) 200mA Aux 1 output. [Not connected/ is optional]
-H2/14:Violet/Black, (-) 200mA Aux 2 output. [Not connected/ is optional]
-H2/15:ORANGE / Black, (-) 200mA Aux 4 output. [Not connected/ is optional]
-H2/16:Brown, (+) Brake Shutdown Input. [Connected]
-H2/17:Grey, (-) Hood pin input (n/c or n/o). [Connected]
-H2/18:Violet / YELLOW, (-) 200mA Starter output. [Not connected/ is optional]
-H2/19:Blue, (-)Truck pin/instant trigger input (n/c or n/o). [Not connected/ is optional]
-H2/20:Grey/Black, (-) Diesel Wait to start input. [Not connected, think I can set timer on remote?]
-H2/21:WHITE/ Blue, (-) Remote start/turbo timer activation input. [Not connected, don't know if I need?]
-H2/22:Orange, (-) 200mA Accessory output. [Not connected/optional]
-H2/23:Violet/White, tachometer input. [Connected]
-H2/24:GREEN / WHITE, (-) 200mA OEM alarm arm ouput. [Connection pending]

Remote Start, 10-pin heavy gauge connector

-H3/1:Pink, (+) Ignition 1 input/output. [connected]
-H3/2:RED / White, (+) Fused (30A) ignition 2 / Flex relay input 87. [Connected]
-H3/3:Orange, (+) Accessory Output. [connected]
-H3/4:Violet, (+) Starter output (starter kill). [Connected]
-H3/5:Green, (+) Starter input (key side of the starter kill). [Connected]
-H3/6:Red, (+) Fused (30A)ignition 1 input. [connected]
-H3/7:Pink/White, (+) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay output. [connected]
-H3/8:Pink/Black, (+) Flex relay input 87a key side (if required) of flex relay. [Not used]
-H3/9:RED / Black, (+) Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter input. [Connected]
-H3/10: not used

Hey there,
Okay, I've managed to make all or most of the right connections. Remote start, alarm sound, door locks, parking light flash all work right. As far as the OEM Alarm disarm or arm wires are concerned. Do they actually need to be connected or can I just configure that in the Viper 5704 control center with out connecting these wires?

Thanks again.

The Vipers H2/24 Arm and H2/4 Disarm output wires are used to  arm & disarm the vehicles' Factory Alarm
system.  Does your F350 have the Factory Alarm system?    ( I  don't see any Factory Alarm system wires listed
for the F350 truck.)  If you don't have the Factory Alarm system, you don't need to connect these two Viper wires.

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Yes, my 2002 F350 does have a factory alarm. Reason I was asking is that the viper 5704 has a "Remote Pairing" function which is: a process where the Responder LC and the system in the vehicle learn each others encrypted identification, securing their communication from intruders.

Was wondering if the Viper alarm takes over the OEM arm/disarm function or do I still have to connect these wires. If so, where are the wires I need to connect them to?

Ed

The Viper Remote Pairing process only mates ( or sync's ) those specific Viper FOB's to the Viper brain.  It really
has nothing to do with the vehicle.  I usually perform this pairing process, prior to vehicle install, during "bench prep"
when I do the brain to bypass wiring and initial programming and set-up.

The Vipers connections are to allow the Viper to interface / control the Factory Alarm.  It will turn it OFF prior to a
remote start and with the Unlock output.  It will turn it ON with a Lock output and after a remote start shutdown /
timeout.

As for the Viper to truck Factory Alarm Arm and Disarm wires, here is all I can find.
 Bulldog Security - Alarm Disarm = N.A.
 Ready Remote - Nothing listed beside the Factory Alarm / Disarm items.
 Audiovox has this entry :   Alarm Disarm    DARK GREEN/ VIOLET    With no polarity or location info.
 Omega shows no info next to the Alarm wire entries.

Check for this Dark/Green Disarm wire at the door harness or the VSM.  Here is a note from Bulldog on the VSM :
NOTE #3: The VSM (Vehicle Security Module) is located to the RIGHT of the GAS PEDAL, just above
the transmission hump and below the RADIO, it is NOT ACCESSIBLE from the radio opening.

The last 2002 Duper Duty I did was a 10 bolt F250 with a V-10 that didn't have any alarm system.  Perhaps
another Forum Member has additional info on these wires.

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