viper 4204v + db all in civic 2012 manual
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: viper 4204v + db all in civic 2012 manual
Posted By: rodgers25
Subject: viper 4204v + db all in civic 2012 manual
Date Posted: March 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM
I want to install Viper 4204V remote start with db-all in my 2012 civic.
In the past I install a Viper 350 Car alarm in my 77 t/a without any problem
But my civic look like more complicated and viper manual (4204)is not detail like the 350
I get a diagram with the Xpresskit for my civic connection,
civic 2012 db-all
The wire in the rec rectangle in image goes with wich one of the viper wire?
viper 4204 harness1
viper 4204 harness2
Thanks and my car is manual so I think that I should connect h2/2 hire to e-brake switch !?
Replies:
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 6:03 AM
Use the wire diagram template stickied to the top of the Security & Convenience page to list out all of the connections. It will help us to help you.
But I can tell you right now that you probably won't get any help on here for that installation. That is not the correct starter for a manual transmission and is a MAJOR safety hazard. There is nothing that will prevent the car from being able to start in gear and could potentially kill someone. Get a starter that is manual transmission ready and we will be more than willing to help.
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 7:23 AM
I am not a Viper dealer, but from the info I can find online, it appears that the Viper 4204V is manual transmission safe ( has a reservation mode, etc ).
https://www.viper.com/ShopViperProducts/ItemDetail.aspx?ItemCode=4204V
Fill out the templates and that should get things started. Remember that installing a remote start on a manual transmission vehicle is more complicated and has to be done correctly to ensure safe operation.
------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 7:43 AM
This remote start have a reservation mode on it, you have to put car in neutral, push the break pedal, pull e-break, remove key get out og the car, press door look button and the car will stop,
I try to start the car with the clutch switch jumped(safely in my yard), I put the car in gear and I start it, the car was doing the same thing like im stalling it He don`t start and move like 3 inches...
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 8:18 AM
I have matching some of the connection on paper if some one can double check please
(+)Starter:-----------------h3/4
(+)Accessory 1:----------h3/2
(+)Accessory 2:----------h3/5
(+)12v Input:---------------h1/1
(+)Ingnition Output:------h3/1
(-)Ground:-----------------h1/2
(-)parking light:--------- ? I think I have to invert the polarity in the module tu put it negative
and h2/2 on e-break wire
Thanks to helps me
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 9:05 AM
I apologize. I did a search on here for 4204 and it brought up the 4204V. Unfortunately your method doesn't test it properly. When the remote start cranks the engine, it will continue cranking it until it reads the tach signal (engine actually starts) so if installed incorrectly and activated, it will drive away until it hits a solid object.
Do a search in the Downloads/Manuals section for "Wire template". It will give you an Excel document that gives the exact layout to help us help you. Fill that out with what you know (from the Viper manual) and we can help fill in the blanks. A lot of us work full time on here and don't always have the ability to spend an hour making up a template from scratch. If you can get it started, we can fill in the blanks.
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 9:35 AM
I just need the connection in y last post, Im gonna try with d2d methode (I know that is not the best way)
so I just need the connection in my first post first link.
I know where the connection goes in the car, but I don't know wich viper wire do what
Exemple: Accessory 1 (from viper)go to wire on ignition switch white connector pin 4 orange wire
Which is Accessory 1 wire on viper harness?
I.m completing the excel thing and i gonna post it in few minutes thanks a lot
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Here the connection Template with all the connection and information that I have !
Connection Template
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Click on the link and click on download on the top left, now you can download the Excel Document on your pc !!
Thanks
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 11:07 AM
This should be everything. I didn't bother uploading the actual document, just copied / pasted so the format isn't perfect but it should get you going. Also, you are better off going W2W. 5 extra minutes of prep time could end up saving you hours of headache in the future.
Vehicle Information: Honda Civic 2012 Ex Manual trans.
Alarm / Remote Start Unit: Viper 4204V
Bypass Module: Db-all w Firmware honda56
Alarm / Remote Start / Bypass Unit Vehicle
Connection Color Description Color Polarity Location:
h1/1 Red (+) 12vdc Constant Input White (+) Ignition Switch/White Connector/Pin 1
h1/2 Black (-) Chassis Groun n/a (-) Body Ground
h1/3 Brown (-)200mA Horn Honk Output orange or pink (-) horn switch or dash fuse box, 38 pin plug C; pin 37
h1/4 WHITE/ rown Light flash isolation wire - pin 87a light flash relay No connection
h1/5 White Pin 30 of light flash relay gray (-) headlight switch (*Change Viper jumper to (-) light output
h1/6 Orange 500 mA Ground when Armed output No connection
h2/1 Pink/white (-) 200 mA flex relay control Output No connection
h2/2 BLACK/ White (-) Neutral Safety input GREEN/ red - e-break switch
h2/3 Blue/White (-) 200 mA 2nd status/rear defogger output No connection
h2/4 GREEN/ Black (-) 200 mA Factory alarm disarm output To DB-ALL
h2/5 RED / White (-) 200 mA Trunk release Out put To DB-ALL
h2/6 Green (-) Door Input To DB-ALL
h2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200 mA Dome light output No connection
h2/8 n/a Empty
h2/9 Dark Blue (-) 200 ma Status Output To DB-ALL
h2/10 Pink (-) 200 mA Ignition 1 Outout No connection
h2/11 WHITE/ Black (-) 200 mA Aux 3 Output No connection
h2/12 Violet (+) Door Input No connection
h2/13 WHITE/ Violet (-) 200 mA Aux 1 Output No connection
h2/14 Violet/Black (-) 200 mA Aux 2 Output No connection
h2/15 ORANGE / Black (-) 200 mA Aux 4 Output No connection
h2/16 Brown (+) Brake Shutdown Input light green + brake switch or dash fuse box, green 44 pin plug B; pin 8
h2/17 Grey (-) Hood pin Input (nc or no) light blue (-) dash fuse box, 38 pin plug C; pin 27 (*If factory equipped)
h2/18 Violet / YELLOW (-) 200 mA Starter Input No connection
h2/19 Blue Factory Horn Input (use jumper tu set polarity) No connection
h2/20 Gray/Black (-) Diesel wait to start Input No connection
h2/21 WHITE/ Blue Activation Input No connection
h2/22 Orange (-) 200 mA Accessory Output No connection
h2/23 Violet/White Tachometer Input To DB-ALL
h2 /24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200 mA Factory Alarm Arm Output To DB-ALL
h3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output blue + Ignition switch
h3/2 RED / White (+)12v Fused(30A) Ignition 2/Flex Relay Input White (50A) + Ignition switch
h3/3 Orange (+) Accessory Output orange + Ignition switch
h3/4 Violet (+) Starter Output yellow + Ignition switch
h3/5 Red (+)12V Fused(30A) Ignition1 Input White (50A) + Ignition switch
h3/6 Pink/White Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output red + Ignition switch (change Viper programming to 2nd accessory)
h3/7 Pink/Black Flex Relay Input 87a (if required) Of Fles Relay No connection
h3/8 RED / Black (+)12V Fused (30a) Accessory/Starter Input White (50A) + Ignition switch
Door lock 3 pins
1 Blue (-) 500 mA unlock Output No connection
2 Empty n/a
3 Green (-) 500 ma Door Lock Output No connection
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM
ah Man you save my life!! Im gonna use w2w instead of D2D like you said !
Thanks very much to you Offroad !!
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Last question how are switching this?
"h3/6 Pink/White Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output red(+) Ignition switch (change Viper programming to 2nd accessory2)
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM
In the programming options for the viper there will be a setting for the Flex relay output. It will be either 2nd ignition (default) or 2nd accessory. You need to change it to 2nd accessory. The manual should tell you exactly how to change it.
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM
Thank man I read the manual too fast my bad :( its well explicate in the manual !!
Thanks again!!
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Is all function are set to option 1 by default?
Thanks
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM
I believe so, but I rarely use DEI so I can't say for sure. The manual should say what the defaults are.
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: rodgers25
Date Posted: March 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Yes it's option 1 by default !!
Thanks to Offroad !!
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