viper 5704 programing issues

Hi Guys.

I just installed a 5704...  it was working fine i was able to program new remotes. But just before putting the car back together the alarm keeps flashing 5x in MTS mode.  I've checked and double checked all the wiring the brake wire is fine and not active when going into MTS mode. 

So i tried to ZAP the alarm with the bitwriter.  Now i cant get the unit to get back into alarm pair mode.

I've tried

1, open door

2 press and release command button.  press and hold commmand button. 

nothing happens. 

Ps.  programing wise everything worked till i zapped the unit. 

1) Do you have LED brake lights?
2) Never use a Bitwriter in panic, I never need one and I'm now doing about 2+ 5X04s a week.
3) You should be able to restore or unzap the unit, by unlocking remote access via the Bitwriter then relearning the remotes.
No disrespect but as far as I'm concerned, giving any one but experienced pros access to Bitwriter, ESP, Wizard etc. is like giving a 4 year old an assault rifle.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Once sorted, try this on the brake line:-
remove_brake_feedback.bmp

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

how howie... your always a life saver.. 

Problem is after zapping a unit.   You cannot use the bitwriter to save any settings without any remotes programed into the unit. How do you actually unzap a unit?  I've never seen that option 

I haven't used a Bitwriter for 3 years but here goes.
Make sure the unit is seeing a ground on H2/6 when the door is open OR ground it temporarily.
Make sure it sees 12V+ on H3/1 when you turn on the ignition.
Reprogram remotes.
Then go into Bitwriter and unlock it.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

I cant go into program mode

the door wires are connected and the ignition wire. 

I push the valet button once, then press and hold the button and nothing happens

Open door,  turn ignition to ON, Press and release, then press hold. Should get one flash from the LED and a chirp from the siren. Release the button and pair the remote to the unit.    Remote must be setup to be paired also.

I usually set the remote up first and then setup the brain.

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sorry forgot to mention that i did turn the ign on while pressing / release... then press and hold the button

If you are turning on the ignition while pressing the button is incorrect.  Turn ignition to ON,  then press button.....

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what im doing is

1. open door

2. turn ign on

3. press and release button

4. press and hold button

nothing happens.

Test all of the following directly at the unit itself: Constant, ground, ignition, door pin. Make sure they are all showing exactly what they should.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

ill check it soon.. 

whats weird is that everything worked before zapping the unit. 

remote programing worked door triggers bonnet / trunk . 

brake shutdown etc. 

but before putting the car back together i tested it and it gave me 5 flashes.  I tested the brake wire it seemed to be fine. 

So i zapped the unit.  Now it wont let me get into program mode.

I guess i don't know enough about DEI units because I have no idea what you mean by "zapped the unit"


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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

Using the DEI BitWriter one can ZAP the unit and wipe out all of the settings, including deleating the remotes from the unit.  You can not program the unit again until at least one remote is paired to the unit.

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Paradox,  do you have any saved files in your bitwriter?  If yes you might try writing one of those files into your 5704 to get it working again.

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Hi Smokeman

i dont have anything saved on the bitwriter. 

What door trigger are you using on (Make, Model, Year of car) POS or NEG ? 

If you were getting a active brake signal, maybe disco the brake input and then try pairing the remotes. 

Have you tested the H3/1 Pink wire to make sure it is getting 12 volts with the ignition on?

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the car is a 2007 honda fit

the car is pretty straight forward. 

the door triggers are neg

ok... finally got it to pair.. 

now the orginial 5 blinks persist... 

first i tried to use howies methods to isolate brake feed back...  and it didnt work. 

So i cut the brown wire closer to the module to manually apply power unit trying to replicate the shutdown process.. and i still get 5 flashes

What happens when the brown at H2/16 is completely disconnected?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Hi guys thanks for all your help.

The unit is all sorted now.  I ended up zapping it again and it finally worked..  MTS and programing worked first go.