python 5706p starter challenge

Hello, so I removed a rather troublesome Carvox system from my 2007 Toyota FJ installed a new Python 5706P alarm/starter system  with soldered connections and while the locks, alarm works fine the remote starter does not. Afer finally programming it for an auto transmission, fixing the neutral safety switch it does not start??

The 2 way remote shows the remote start icon, 12 mins come up, but it does not crank just says an remote starter error after a minute with no flashes but lots of clicking? I did hook up the tach sensor wire as well.

Any ideas what I missed or is there list of the required wires other than the wiring schematic?

Thanks

Randy

Show us what you wired and to where, Python and Toyota colours see the post above, wire charts or something similar.
I'm not psychic but I'll go psychotic if you expect us to guess what you've done.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

What did you use for a bypass?

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

Thanks I will review my notes guess you guys are right wiring depiction would certainly help. I did not use a bypass with the old Carvox or the Python as the early 2007s had a key without the chip as I can just use any key blank to start it unlike my wifes new RAV4 which shows an key icon in the dash.

Thanks again was just wondering if it was something simple as I replaced wire for wire from the Carvox harness to the Viper harness expecting this would have been everything my bad.

Randy

Like the others said, best to post what you connected where, but I could guess that maybe you got the Python's onboard starter kill wires backwards? You should have green to key side, purple to car side. If you get that backwards it might not crank.

Also try this:

1: Start engine with key, keep foot off brake.

2: Activate remote starter's "pit-stop" mode, by pressing remote start button

3: Parking lights should flash on and off, then come back on steady.

4: Turn off and remove key.

5: Report here if engine stayed running, and if climate controls, radio worked, and if any warning lights on dash.

6: Step on brake, make sure remote starter shuts off.

lots of clicking?????

is the battery fully charged?

ie- is it starting manually?

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Hi guys I was really tired when I posted originally.my apologies for coming off sounding like weenie. 

So clicking is the relays within the brain as the car does not even turn over not the vehicle starter system.

I would like to just go over a few things.

1. The alarm works great.

2. Door locks work fine.

3. Domelight is fine.

4. Door trigger is fine.

5. Sensor, led, remote work fine.

6. When you press the start button icon displays on remote, 12 mins shows, lights flash, series of clicks but no turning over, remote after around 30 secs display starter error.

7. I did not trace the wiring back to the Toyota FJs harness I just replaced wire for wire from the 2 different harnesses, for the record the Carvox was installed by a licensed shop.

Carvox 3300/X6-A Wiring Python 5706P

     2 X 3P White H1     
     1 – BLACK/ Ground          Main Harness 6 pin H1/2 Black Ground
     4 - Pink/Ign # 1 10 Pin Heavy H3/1 Pink + Ign 1
     2 - ORANGE / Acc             10 Pin Heavy H3/3  (+) Accessory Output
     5 –  RED / 12 volt constant         Main Harness 6 pin H1/1 12 volt constant 
     3 – PURPLE / Start 10 Pin Heavy H3/4 + side starter output (not sure about this wire) maybe on   the key side????
     6 – Pink/Ign #2 10 Pin Heavy H3/7 Pink/White + Ign 2

     2 X 3P White H2
     1 – WHITE/ Black + - Lock Output   1 - 3 Pin Connector Blue Unlock output
     4 – White + - Unlock Output          3 - 3 Pin Connector Green Lock output
     5 – Brown + Light 1 Output  Main Harness 6 pin H1/5 White Parking Light

    7P White H4
    Green + - Door trigger input          24 Pin  15 Green – Door Input 
    Brown Brake pedal input +   24 Pin   20 Brown Brake Shutdown
    PURPLE / White Tach input     24 Pin   12 Violent/White Tach Input
    BLACK/ White Parking Brake Input Neutral Safety 24 Pin   13 BLACK/ White Neutral/Parking Br
    Grey – Hood Pin     24 Pin    9 Gray Hood Pin Input

    8P White H3     
    BLACK/ White Dome Light    24 Pin  4 BLACK / YELLOW Dome light output 

Thanks again everyone really appreciate your time/help.

Randy

So just wanted say the car starts manually just fine (auto trans) 2007 Toyota FJ.

I am not using the starter kill,the key has no transponder. I think I have the starter input/output screwed up. :(

Randy

From the photo, it would appear that you only have one of the heavy gauge 12 volt inputs connected, ( Red, RED / White, RED / Black) H3/2, 6, & 9 should beconnected to a constant 12 volt source. 

Do the highlights indicate what wires you have connected?

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I am embarrased to say I think so. I was going by memory the next morning it was 3:30 am and I did not have a highlighter. :( I am pretty sure I just missed 1 or 2 wires of the starter connections as everything else works. I should have known better being stuck behind a desk for 14 years has made me a tad lazy which I was not when I was an installer. :(

Always go slow, document, double check, was how I was trained should have followed the advice I knew.

Randy aka dumb as_.

If it were me, I would rip everything out and start over. That looks like a major rats nest of wires and a nightmare waiting to happen. To be on topic though, where do you have the violet starter output wire of the Python connected to?

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

Sorry that was before I reloomed everything it is now soldered shrink wrapped taped and covered in split loom as I go off road and do not want to be stranded.

I am pretty sure I took the Purple starter wire from the Carvox start 2X3P connector  and connected it to the Python H3/4 10 pin heavy violet starter output (car side of starter kill) think it should b on the Green Starter input?

Thanks

Randy

Cut vehicle starter wire.
Green to key side, purple to starter side.
Connect RED, RED / Black and RED / WHITE to a high current constant source.
Haven't you got multiple start or ignition wires?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Thanks I will recheck as I thought just swapping the Carvox leads to specific Python leads would suffice. Was just hoping someone could confirm what wires were needed for the starter function.

Time to remove some panels, at least  have everything loomed and easy to find.

Randy

Looking at the Bulldog site, your FJ has two Starter wires, and two ignition wires. 

Use a DMM to TEST and VERIFY the wires on your vehicle. Download the viper 571 install manual for info on finding the wires you need, starting on page 6.

H1/1, Red... and H3/2 RED / White, 6 Red, & 9 RED / Black  need to be connected to a 12 volt constant source listed as Blue/Black on the FJ

Starter 1 H3/4 Violet to starter side of cut GREEN/ Black on FJ...H3/5 Green to Key Side of cut GREEN/ Black on FJ.

H3/1 Pink to BLACK/ Red of FJ (ignition 1)...H3/7  Pink/White to Blue / YELLOW of FJ  (ignition 2)

H3/3 Orange to WHITE/ Green of FJ (Accessory)

Starter 2, BLACK/ White of FJ,  will need a relay with Violet/White,pin 21 200ma starter output, from 24 pin harness. See relay section of this site for relay info.

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Thanks guys I will dust off my Fluke DMM. and get to work.

Randy