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new installer, first remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: new installer, first remote start

Posted By: ss09
Subject: new installer, first remote start
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 12:58 PM

hello and thanks for reading, this is my first alarm remote start install i have ever done so be easy on me please. i have a 2002 chevy suburban that im installing a clifford 5102 alarm and remote start. where i am running in to a snag is with the remote start part i have the direct tecs wiring sheets and the remote start owners and install manual. when i installed and hit the remote start button all of the accessories come on but the truck never cranks. also ifi start the truck with the key the alarm siren will chirp. here is what wires i hooked up to the ignition harness.

o     H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Out & Ign 1 input sense to IGN C6 (Pink) AND DKPLGM Pink
o     H3/2 RED / Wh (+) Ignition 2 to IGN D2 RED / Wh
o     H3/3 Orange (+) Accessory to IGN D1 Orange
o     H3/4 Violet (+) Starter Out to IGN Yellow C1 (harness side of cut wire)
o     H3/5 Green (+) Starter In to IGN Yellow C1 (key side of cut wire)
o     H3/6 Red (+) Ignition 1 In to IGN B5 Red (12V constant)
o     H3/7 Pink/Wh (+) Ignition 2 Out to IGN C5 Pink/Wh
o     H3/8 Pink/Blk (+) Flex Relay In N/A
o     H3/9 RED / Blk (+) Accessory In to IGN B5 Red
o     H3/10 N/C



not sure whats wrong with my install?




ps i am using the dball bypass and the shop i got the alarm from programed it to a 02 suburban


thanks for any help on this



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Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM
The red, red white, and red black are all 12v CONSTANT inputs.

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Gary Sather




Posted By: ss09
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 4:14 PM
tonanzith wrote:

The red, red white, and red black are all 12v CONSTANT inputs.



ok with that being done still dosent start????? think the remote start is bad?




Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 5:17 PM
did you run a tach wire?  if so, did you program it to the viper?  did the dball program to the vehicle?

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Posted By: ss09
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 5:58 PM
dasbogie wrote:

did you run a tach wire?  if so, did you program it to the viper?  did the dball program to the vehicle?



yes ran a tac, yes i programed it, and yes to the dball




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Double check the ignition, ACC connections and your ground, connect the red, RED / white and RED / black to a constant.
Ah do I here the newbie war cry? "It's a bad unit"
Yeah right.
Do you know the failure rate of DEI,Compustar, A/Voxx?
It's about 0.1%.
How come us pros NEVER EVER see a bad unit, and I will have done 3 x 5704 R/S installs between today and the weekend.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 8:39 PM

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     Pink   ( also to bypass module )
H3/2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED FLEX Red
H3/3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT Orange
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)      Yellow - cut
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)           Yellow - cut
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT           Red
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT White   ***Set for IGN2
H3/8 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A                 Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT         RED / White
H3/10 N/C N/C

Here is a photo of the wires at / near the BCM :

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There is also a Brown ACC2 wire that you might want to connect if you want full accessories
during a remote start.

Not positive which bypass module you are using.  If it is the DLPKGM, are you going D2D or W2W
with the Clifford?  If W2W, do you have the Clifford's (-) 200mA Status Output wire connected to the
DLPKGM's Blue/White GWR input wire?



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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: May 15, 2013 at 8:51 PM
What other wires from the clifford unit are connected and to what.  What wires from the DB-ALL are connected?  Are you doing W2W or D2D?   Did the DB-All program per the instructions?

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Posted By: brainsucker
Date Posted: November 05, 2015 at 12:51 PM
very helpful howie....thanx for your input




Posted By: brainsucker
Date Posted: November 05, 2015 at 12:52 PM
in hindsight ..........5102 remotes have to be programmed...default settings are for a manual trans....threw me for a loop at first....THEN I READ THE MANUAL........lol




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 06, 2015 at 6:27 AM
Ha ha, sorry we all missed that one. Apologies. But seriously never seen a faulty unit.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: November 06, 2015 at 9:38 AM
Did you hook up the neutral safety wire?

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Gary Sather





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