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4206p 00 malibu guide?Printed From: the12volt.comForum Name: Car Security and Convenience Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc. URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=135294 Printed Date: May 04, 2024 at 2:40 PM Topic: 4206p 00 malibu guide? Posted By: weaz4200 Subject: 4206p 00 malibu guide? Date Posted: November 15, 2013 at 8:15 PM Looking for some help as I have just purchased the Python 4206P remote start for my 2000 Malibu. I have access to all the wiring schematics that I'll need for the car but I'm stuck on the install guide. Just trying to figure out which wires I don't need to hook up but I am uncertain of the terminology used in the quick reference install guide.
All I'm looking to do is... 1) Obviously Remote start to work 2) Door locks and trunk release to work That's it for now. Obviously the system has many capabilities but I just need the list above to work. Can someone please help me weed out which connection I don't need? I'll probably have a few questions a bit later but right now I'd like to look at the Install Guide and eliminate wires I won't be using Here's the guide breakdown Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND H1/3 BROWN (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN LIGHT FLASH ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a light flash relay H1/5 WHITE PIN 30 of LIGHT FLASH RELAY H1/6 ORANGE 500 mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT Auxiliary/Shutdown Harness (H2), 24-pin connector H2/1 PNK/WHITE (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR INPUT** H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT H2/8 EMPTY ------------------------------------ H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT H2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT H2/12 VIOLET (+) DOOR INPUT H2/13 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT H2/17 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO) H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT H2/19 BLUE** FACTORY HORN INPUT (Use Jumper to set polarity) H2/20 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT H2/21 WHITE/ BLUE ACTIVATION INPUT H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT Remote Start harness (H3), 8-pin connector H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT H3/2 RED / WHITE +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY INPUT H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT H3/5 RED +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT H3/6 PINK/WHITE IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY OUTPUT H3/7 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87a (IF REQUIRED) OF FLEX RELAY H3/8 RED / BLACK +12V FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT Door Lock, 3-pin connector 1 BLUE (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT 2 EMPTY NOT USED 3 GREEN (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ROB Replies: Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 15, 2013 at 8:54 PM Hi Rob, Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector Auxiliary/Shutdown Harness (H2), 24-pin connector ** The Trunk Release Output is (-) and the Malibu needs a (+) signal. Use a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay w/ 10 Amp fuse Note 1 : The TACH wire on the 4-Cylinder is a WHITE (AC) at the IGNITION COIL, on the V6, the TACH wire is a Remote Start harness (H3), 8-pin connector Door Lock, 3-pin connector You will need a bypass module for the Passlock2 immobilizer system. Popular DIYer modules include : ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 15, 2013 at 9:22 PM Thanks for the reply! Man that's a lot of info. Time to get the Advil. Well lets start with the simplest connector. Bare with me as I'm not REAL good with electrical.
Doorlock 3 pin. 1 BLUE (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT 2 EMPTY NOT USED 3 GREEN (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT Couldn't I wire it up as per this diagram... Note color of arrows corresponding to wire colors from above and tap into those wires? Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 15, 2013 at 10:01 PM That is basically where you are going to connect to. Notice the wire colors are the same as the wire guide The relays coils are tied together at Pin 86, which goes to E10 C1 Black wire to chassis ground, G201. Pin 85 Here is a link to the Bulldog Security wire list with photos for your car : ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM Thanks again
That is the reason for the relays or 451M module, to convert the 4206's (-) output to the (+) output the car needs. The relays coils are tied together at Pin 86, which goes to E10 C1 Black wire to chassis ground, G201. Pin 85 needs to be +12V to energize the coil. I guess that makes sense. So now the H3 connector... Note image of proper wiring placement (i made pic smaller as the forum rules state 640 pixels. If need be I'll make bigger) Questions 1)Why H3/3 Orange to orange and not the BRN in the wiring diagram? 2)H3/6 Pink/White to DRK GRN? What is the purpose of FLEX RELAY OUTPUT ***set for IGN2? What does this mean? Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 16, 2013 at 12:10 AM Hopefully the above is correct.
Now for H1 harness. H1/1 I'll just tap into the same place as the (H3/2,H3/5,H3/8) as above. H1/2 obvious chassis ground H1/3 Diagram in previous post doesn't show a black wire for whatever reason... So note pic. I should be okay with tapping in there correct? Also, having a problem with H1/5 BROWN? Headlamp switch schematic.... Doesn't show a brown wire in that particular diagram. But, Front Park/turn and marker lamps diagram... That what I'm looking for? Also stated "***Set for (+)" AS IN? The fuse jumper in the remote start module? Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 16, 2013 at 7:37 AM Ok. This might be a very long reply. First we should start off with a few basic "rules" for auto electronics as applied to the installation of after-market Here is an example from a Ford F-150 of a typical wire harness... A few answers to your questions. H1/3 Horn wiring. The horn diagram you found / posted shows a BLK ( Black ) wire going from the horn button on H1/5 Parking Light connection. It looks like the first diagram posted covers only the Headlight function of the switch. ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM Long but to the point. At least you actually go into detail where as I've been around on mant a random forums where the majority of people wont even expalin or back up their opinions/views.
So, All is taken into account. As far as the H3/3 wire dilema I had, it was due to 1 thing which is how the diagrams are labled. Look at the Ignition C1 and C2 connectors... Note C1 cavity C Orange, Ign switch out (ignition 3) were as C2 cavity C Brown is also Ign switch out but labeled ACCY. Hence my confusion since the install guide states (+) ACC out. Now, I'll admit that I'm not great with wiring. I can work with whats there but when it comes to fully understanding or adding something new then I'm a bit iffy. Prime example is your #1 and #2 statements. I dont understand the conclusion of extra relay and fuses. How can I understand this? I mean I'd like to understand how to look at a circuit and be able to tell, like in this instance of orange vs brown, which would be a better choice and actually comprehend how and why. So I'm set then on location of H1/3 Horn wiring. As far as the H1/5 parking light connection... I stayed up late and must have been euphoric and missed them... I believe these 2 should help... Got a few things I'd like to ask but it'll have to wait till later. Don't want too much clutter at one time. THANKS, ROB Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 16, 2013 at 3:02 PM On the Brown ACC2 wire. The IGN3 label applied to the Orange wire that we are calling ACC1, is one of those industry specific terms that can As mentioned previously, I believe you can go with Option 1 above and leave the Brown wire "not used" for the R/S Parking Lights : ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 7:35 PM I'll just go with the ORN wire. Can't find anything else on the Dash Light Switch that details the Parking Light function. Spent hours looking and nothing. I'll just use the BRN wire.
Either way... Just a quick recap... Remote Start harness (H3), 8-pin connector H3/1 PINK - (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT (Pink @ ignswitch) (C2/PIN B) H3/2 RED / WHITE - +12V FUSED (30A) (Red @ ignswitch) (C2/PIN A) H3/3 ORANGE - (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT (Orange @ ignswitch) (C1/PIN C) H3/4 VIOLET- (+) STARTER OUTPUT (Yellow @ ignswitch) (C1/PIN B) H3/5 RED - +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT Red @ ignswitch) (C2/PIN A) H3/6 PINK/WHITE - FLEX RELAY OUTPUT ***set for IGN2 Green @ ignswitch) ( C1/ PIN E) H3/8 RED / BLACK - +12V FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT Red @ ignswitch) (C2/PIN A) Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT (Red @ ignswitch) (C2/PIN A) H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND (Chas Ground) (Chassis Ground) H1/3 BROWN (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT (Black @ headlmp switch) (C2/PIN A) H1/5 WHITE PIN 30 of LIGHT FLASH RELAY ***Set for (+) (Brown @ headlmp Switch) C2/PIN A) Door Lock, 3-pin connector 1 BLUE (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT - To 451M door lock module 3 GREEN (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT - To 451M door lock module Will order and wire up door locks with this... 451M H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT Chassis ground ( if auto trans ) (Chassis Ground) H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT To Pin 85 of relay ** H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT bypass module GWR H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT Light Blue @ Brake Pedal Switch (C1/C2/C3 Circuit 1134) H2/17 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO)to supplied hood pin ??? (PURPOSE?) (No start with hood open?) H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT see note 1 (circuit 121/ wht wire/ PIN A2) Trunk release - Will get a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay w/ 10 Amp fuse and wire up as previously suggested. Bypass module - Xpress Kit PLJX Look good? Thumbs up? Thanks, ROB Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 8:02 PM Rob, Looks good. A few notes : 1. The Hood Pin Switch is an important safety feature. It prevents the remote start from working if the hood ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 8:34 PM 10-4 on the hood pin.
I assume your saying its a bit difficult to follow because it shows 5 wires at the key cylinder instead of 2 wires like the GM Passlock 2 bypass like you posted on the previous page? I mean here's the wiring on the PLJX... Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 8:48 PM Kinda like this? Or am I misunderstanding?
Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM Actually, you posted the wiring diagram for the Colorado, Canyon, ION. They use a slightly modified Passlock2. For your 2000 Malibu you want to follow the wiring diagram on Page 6, labeled PASSLOCK 2 & VATS CONNECTION. That's what I meant about it being a confusing install guide.
------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 9:03 PM My bad, I forgot to scroll down. Laziness on my part. I saw the diagram then seen your last post. Gonna take a moment and let it soak in.
Question - Regardless of passlock bypass that I buy, are they all gonna be that in depth or is there a bypass module less complicated? Just curious. Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 9:21 PM All of the bypass modules for that vehicle have pretty much the same wiring. Some of the older bypass modules did cut the Passlock2 wire. It's just that the install guide for the PLJX is so poorly written. Take a look at this iDatalink install guide for the ADS TBSL PL. The 2000 Malibu is Type 3 on Page 7. From this iDatalink guide, you now know that the Keysense wire connection is not necessary. ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 9:27 PM Here's the general power, ground, ignition, starter wire I'm gonna run then.
Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 9:36 PM Splice into the Yellow wire for Passlock resistor value. No key sense wire.
Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM Plus PLJX Brown to 4206 H2/9 Dark Blue, after programming is complete.
------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 9:47 PM PLJX (-) Black ... Ground wire in passlock harness.... You said piggy-back to the 4206's ground wire. Does it matter if its grounded at H1/2 or run to BLK (1835) at Passlock cylinder (shown in previous post)?
Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 17, 2013 at 10:32 PM Final wiring on PLJX...
Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 18, 2013 at 5:40 AM Probably better to use the ground at the key cylinder, being as it is used as a reference for the Passlock2 voltage. Always best to follow the install diagram.
------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM Will do.
Was hoping you could help me understand the trunk release diagram... The relay will be wired as you stated... ** The Trunk Release Output is (-) and the Malibu needs a (+) signal. Use a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay w/ 10 Amp fuse as shown below : Relay Pin 85 to H2/5 Relay Pin 86 & 87 to +12V constant through 10 Amp fuse (((H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT (Red @ ignswitch) (C2/PIN A) ))) Relay Pin 30 to Malibu BLACK/ WHITE (+) @ TRUNK RELEASE SWITCH Relay Pin 87a not used So looking at the diagram. Theres 12V+ at the 87 and 86 pin of the Rear Compartment Lid release relay. The splice at 1040 goes all the way through the Lid release switch on the right comes around to the 86 pin on the Lid release relay. The coil between 86/85 only gets energized when the Park neutral position switch is in Park or Neutral. So once the Lid release Relay coil is energized the switch portion on the release relay closes and 12V+ flows through 87 to 30 and then down to the Remote Control Door Lock Reciever. ORG 1040 has 12V+ and "M" is getting ground from G102 after the Park Neutral Position switch. Then I'm stuck. How does the rest of the circuit work? Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 18, 2013 at 7:02 PM I believe that the Remote Control Door Lock Receiver is the part of the Factory RKE system. You have a Factory FOB
that has a Trunk Release button on it. The "relay" shown in the Remote Control Door Lock Receiver is normally in the position shown and pressing the Rear Compartment Lid Release Switch ( with the trans in Park or Neutral ) will get +12V to the Rear Compartment Lid Release Motor. What is not shown is that when you press the Factory FOB Trunk Release button that "relay" will energize ( if trans is in Park or Neutral ) and supply +12V to the Rear Compartment Lid Release Motor. ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM I see. Thanks.
So what I need to do with the Relay I get is wire PIN 30 and splice into the BLK/WHT wire (circuit 56) between the Remote control door lock reciever and the Lid release motor. Correct? Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 18, 2013 at 7:45 PM Or black wire right after the Lid release switch (1576) since if I was to wire in at BLK/WHT (56) then there would be a possibility that I could accidentally pop the trunk regardless of PRNDL switch position.
Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 21, 2013 at 12:24 PM Finally received the 451M and the Passlock module. I'm looking at the 451M diagram and I'm uncertain.
Looks like I'm not using the WHITE/ black and the BROWN / black wires... 1) Does the 3 pin plug on the 451M get plugged into the python module? 2) How do I distinguish, from the Malibu's door lock schematic whether I use Dia A or Dia B? Thanks, ROB Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM There appears to be differences between the Bulldog Security and Audiovox wire guides ( not unusual ). One On the 451M, you will plug it right into the Python 4206 door lock port. The correct diagram is the Type A. Yes, ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM I will definitely be using my DVOM...
I guess I'm down to my final questions on the wiring. Seeing as I will be running all the 12+ constants through the (red@ignition) (c2/PIN A)... That's not gonna be a problem? Like too much on that one circuit? This includes the Violet fused wire as well. Also, are there any other wires I need to add fuses to? I know you stated 10 Amp fuse for the Relay Pin 86 & 87 for trunk release so I still have to pick up a fuse holder and wire it up with the relay. BUT The wiring for the PLJX is not fused on the 12+ constant. Should I add a fuse to it? THANKS VERY MUCH, ROB Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 21, 2013 at 10:02 PM I believe you will find two +12V constant power wires in the Malibu's main ignition harness, one Red and the other
RED / Black perhaps. You can split the load up between these two wires. The PLJX bypass module draws very little current and really doesn't need a fuse. It is OK to connect its' power wire to one of the Pythons's thick +12V constant wires ( like H1/1 ) after the fuse. ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 21, 2013 at 11:29 PM Correct, RED / Black. Cool. Thanks a bunch. Looks like this weekend is the moment of truth. We'll see how it goes.
Thanks, ROB Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 23, 2013 at 8:20 PM Well I have everything hooked up except the
H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT To Pin 85 of relay ** H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT Light Blue @ Brake Pedal Switch (C1/C2/C3 Circuit 1134) H2/17 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO) to supplied hood pin ????????????? (PURPOSE?) This is what I did. Got all wires hooked up... except the ones listed above and the H2/9 blue to PLJX brown... I programmed the PLJX via the instructions THEN I plugged in the 4206P and then connected the h2/9 to pljx.. Went through and learned the tach. I believe that went as it was supposed to. Then remote pairing, followed to a "T" and all went as instructed. Car wont remote start. I tried to run the diagnostic... and it blinked "7 times"... Timer mode/Turbo mode/ Manual mode error. I'm not sure what's up. Thanks, ROB Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM New problem. So I went through the menu and enabled auto trans as I was getting 7 blinks from the marker lights. Now, this time around...
The car tries to start for a second... Does it a few times... Like on the 3rd or 4th try it pops the trunk (how the trunk pops I dont know, as it is not wired up)... Antitheft light is blinking... (insert shaking head in anger here). Not sure what to do next. Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM Previous new problem, not a problem. Sorry about all the posts. Update.
Went ahead and disconnected the brown wire from bypass/blue wire from 4206p. Did a reprogram on the PLJX. Not sure if I just didnt program the PLJX properly the first time or if I was supposed to to have the 4206p hooked up as well minus the H2/9 blue to PLJX brown (4206p not hooked up first time/only had PLJX hooked up) but all seems to work for now. Not sure why before the trunk was popping after trying to start multiple times with no success. Maybe someone can explain what was happening. I feel I might need to get a battery or maybe this one just needs to recharge a bit since I did use the mirror lights on and off during the install. Either way. Car starts and runs fine. Still have to wire up the H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT Light Blue @ Brake Pedal Switch (C1/C2/C3 Circuit 1134) and H2/17 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT But I cant seem to find the LT BLUE wire at the brake pedal. Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 24, 2013 at 7:10 PM So here's where I'm at. Everything is wired up minus the hood pin and the 451M. Trunk release is wired up but I have yet to program it.
Purchased a new battery as I figured the old battery would attribute to the remote start not wanting to start ever so often. So 1 of 3 things happens.. 1) Remote starts car fine and all is good (obviously not a problem here) 2) Tries to start 1 time and doesn't start... Lights/dash stay on... (i'll usually initiate shutdown on the remote control after about 5-6 seconds if it doesn't try to start again) 3) Tries to start and fails. Attempts to start again, fails... Like 3rd or 4th time it pops the trunk. Why would 2 or 3 be happening? More importantly why does it only try once and not again and why #3 does it try a few times then pops the trunk? I started multiple times with the old battery earlier in the day no problem... Though just like last night once it gets dark and REAL COLD it acts stupid. Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM A few thoughts : 1. Ensure that all connections are well soldered and properly insulated. 2. As mentioned previously, the R/S's chassis ground wire should have a soldered on terminal ring and be bolted to a 3. Were you having start-up problems before ( due to the Passlock2 ) ? The PLJX "learns" the Passlock2 value during 4. As you found out, programming the R/S with the remotes is tricky. Due to the failed start-ups and re-tries, I would ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM I am certain all connections are solid as I made sure to check each one after I wired them up one by one. I will check again though. Insulation wise, I probably used more insulation then I should, but I wanted to be certain there was no shorts anywhere. Terminal ring was used. I verified chassis ground in multiple places on the chassis to make certain I had a good connection. All seems golden. Will check again. As stated previously, what happened yesterday was.... I initially programed the PLJX without having the 4206p installed. (I had all wiring run for the 4206p just didn't plug it in yet) After I attempted to program the PLJX I plugged in the 4206p and then also connected the 4206 blue/PLJX brown as I believe I had programed the Passlock correctly. Then I proceeded to learn the tach. Then programed the remotes/fabs. Once I believed I had everything programmed I went ahead and attempted to remote start the car. All that happened was I encountered "7 Blinks" from the marker lights. From the diagnostic that had something to do with "manual mode enabled". So I went through the menus and changed from manual trans to auto. Once I fixed that I again attempted to remote start. It tried to start but did not. A couple seconds go by and it tries to start again. Typically when I initiated remote start it would try to start like 3 or 4 times. If it did not start by the 3rd or 4th try in the sequence it would pop the trunk... Then I believe it stops trying to start. I tried a few more times and then eventually I encountered the THEFT light... So I attempted to start the car via the regular key. No dice. Wouldn't start that way either So I went ahead and disconnected the battery. Waited a bit then plugged back in. Once theft light was gone I started the car via the regular key. Once that worked I reprogrammed the PLJX. This time around I had the 4206p fully connected, just unplugged the blue 4206/brown PLJX wire. After it was programmed this time I connected the blue/brown wire again. At this point the battery seemed a bit low so I threw a battery charger on it and waited. Once the battery charged a bit I went ahead and remote started the car. All seems fine. It starts no problem a few times. Plus its also 15 degrees outside so its kinda starting slow. So I called it a night. So I go back today and remote start. Starts up multiple times no problem. I finished wiring up the brake switch and trunk release. By this time its about 4pm and temps are at 20ish degrees. Battery seems weak as I try to start via the key. Slow start. So I went to get a new battery as the old one is 3 years old already. Plug in the new battery and start the car with key. Then I attempt to start once (starter cranks a few times then stops) Does not continue. I shut down remote start. I try again. Now it starts. Since the new battery was installed I tried starting a few times and no problem. I just started it 2 times from inside the house and no problem. So, I'm not sure. Maybe its fine now. Guess I'll watch it and see if it happens again. If it encounter the no start/ trunk pop or no start (cranks once then stops) I'll let you know. I believe its in tach mode as it starts and runs for now. I will check again though. If it wasn't in tach mode wouldn't it not start and stay running like it is now? Malibu does not have one touch. I can check the shutdown diagnostic. Is the code stored for a while or no? I mean, if I try to start and it doesn't then it eventually starts is the code still stored or is it cleared. Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 24, 2013 at 9:28 PM So hopefully you dont get a headache reading my previous post but here is my current attempt. I just remote started the car 3 times.
1st attempt - Start no problem. Wait about 30 seconds. 2nd attempt - remote start initiates and cranks once. Then stops. Lights stay on. No more crank. I initiate shut down. Wait 30 seconds. 3rd attempt - Cars start no problem. Now I don't know how much weather is a factor.... Plus one other thing I'm thinking... Maybe I'm just crazy but it seems like with the times that there's a no start I cant hear the fuel pump... Maybe its just in my head. Posted By: kreg357 Date Posted: November 24, 2013 at 11:25 PM I tried a few more times and then eventually I encountered the THEFT light... So I attempted to start the car via the regular key. No dice. Wouldn't start that way either This is indicative of "Passlock2 short tamper mode". This is what happens if the bypass is not programmed properly and you try several remote start attempts. Now I don't know how much weather is a factor.... Plus one other thing I'm thinking... Maybe I'm just crazy but it seems like with the times that there's a no start I cant hear the fuel pump... Maybe its just in my head. Passlock2 actually controls the vehicles fuel pump. When the Passlock2 is not bypassed, the engine will crank and even fire / stumble briefly when it uses up any fuel remaining in the rail ( plus the dash Theft light will be on ). Yes, the shutdown diagnostics code will be stored from the last remote start failure and can be checked at any time. ------------- Soldering is fun! Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM The theft light was an issue when I initially programed it... I think I got it right the second time.
But if there was a passlock issue why does is start and run no problem certain times? Posted By: weaz4200 Date Posted: November 25, 2013 at 12:06 AM Diagnostics show this...
A lot of 4 flashes - Transmitter shut down and 5 flashes brake shutdown... I assume 4 flashes comes from me putting in the key after remote start and the remote start shuts down and the key takes it's place. I also assume the 5 flashes come from me testing it out earlier when I was wiring up the brake switch. I tested it by depressing the brake pedal to make sure the car would shutdown. Though I did get 3 flashes - Low or no RPM. Maybe I need to increase cranking time? |
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