first time 2005 ford 500
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=135413
Printed Date: May 13, 2025 at 1:06 PM
Topic: first time 2005 ford 500
Posted By: dharvey1020
Subject: first time 2005 ford 500
Date Posted: November 29, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Well I want to try to install my first electric start. I have a python 414. I ordered a transponder bypass. I will be a tempting to install this in to a 2005 ford 500. This will be my first install any help on terminology would be awsome. Do I also have all the parts I need. I'm sure I will have other questions. I'll post as they come up. Thanks in advanced for all the help.
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Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 29, 2013 at 10:31 PM
I forgot the model number for transponder bypass that I bought. It's a express kit pkfm. The description said it should work with my car.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 4:48 AM
While I'm not a big fan of the PKFM ( had issues when it was XK04 ), it should work OK. It should come flashed with the PKFORD firmware. You will need two working, non-clone, ignition keys to program the bypass module. Here are the transponder wire colors as listed by iDatalink : Five Hundred 05-07 TX Pin 3 WHITE/ Light Green RX Pin 4 Gray/Orange
The car is fairly basic with no big surprises for your remote start with keyless entry install. Be aware that the Factory hood pin ( if installed ) is the N.C. type and if you use it as the 414's hood pin input, you will need to change Menu 1, Item 9 to Option 2. If there is no Factory hood pin, use the one supplied in the 414 kit ( with no programming changes ).
Your next step should be to download all the wiring guide info from several sources and make up a wire chart. Here are some more wire guide sources :
Here is a link to Bulldog Security : https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp Here is a link to Ready Remote : https://www.readyremote.com/main.asp Here is a link to AudioVox : https://techservices.audiovox.com/AccessRequest.aspx Sign-up & info is free.
If you post your wire connection chart ( Python 414 to vehicle ), forum members can review it and make suggestions and or corrections before you start the install.
Last but not least, use a Digital Multi Meter to test the vehicles wires. And every connection should be soldered for best reliability.
------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 7:04 AM
Thank you that's great I'll get to work on that chart and post back
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 4:03 PM
I worked on my wire connection chart and i will post it after this reply. Its the first one i have ever done so might be completely wrong. sorry if it is. There was some stuff i wasn't sure about. I left question marks in those spots. Some help with that would be great. on the instructions there was Auxiliary/shutdown harness, not sure what this is for. also how hard would it be to get the heated seats and rear defrosted to come on when i start the car.
Thanks again for all the help.
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Main Harness
Python 414 Ford 500
H/1 red constant input Red
h/2 black chassis ground ?
h3 brown horn output dark blue(-)
(h/4 whit/brown light flash isolation wire?) ?
(h/5 white pin 30 of light flash relay?) ?
(h/6 ground when armed output?) ?
Door lock harness
1 blue (-) unlock output pink lt green (-)
2 empty
3 green pink yellow (-)
Remote start harness
h/1 pink(+)ing 1 input/output light GREEN/ purple
h/2 red white 12vdc constant input -
h/3 orange accessory output gray / YELLOW
h/4 starter output drak green
(h/5 red 12vdc constant for ign relay 1?) (light GREEN/ purple?)
(h/6 pink/white ign 2 ?) ?
(h/7 pink black flex relay input ) ?
(h/8 red black constantant input for acc and starter relays?) ?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM
Main Harness
Python 414 Ford 500 H/1 red constant input Red @ ignition switch harness *** h/2 black chassis ground Chassis Ground h/3 brown horn output dark blue(-) in steering column h/4 whit/brown light flash isolation wire?) not used h/5 white pin 30 of light flash relay?) BLACK/ lt. green (-) @ headlight switch h/6 ground when armed output?) not used
Door lock harness
1 blue (-) unlock output pink/lt green (-) @ DKP 2 empty 3 green (-) lock output pink / YELLOW (-) @ DKP
Remote start harness
h/1 pink(+)ing 1 input/output light GREEN/ purple @ ignition switch harness h/2 red white 12vdc constant input not used h/3 orange accessory output gray / YELLOW @ ignition switch harness h/4 starter output dark green @ ignition switch harness h/5 red 12vdc constant for ign relay Red @ ignition switch harness *** h/6 pink/white ign 2 not used h/7 pink black flex relay input not used h/8 red black +12V input for acc/starter Red @ ignition switch harness ***
*** There should be two Red +12V constant power wires in the main ignition switch harness. Split the load between them.
H2/1 PNK/WHITE (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT not used H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT chassis ground H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT ??? H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT lt. blue/black (-) @ driver kick H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT pink/orange (-) @ switch H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR INPUT* not used H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT not used H2/8 EMPTY ------------------------------------ H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT bypass module, if W2W mode H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT not used H2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT not used H2/12 VIOLET (+) DOOR INPUT not used H2/13 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT not used H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT not used H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT not used H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT RED / lt. green + switch H2/17 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO) ***Set to N.C. PURPLE / orange (-) pin switch or SJB, conn. A, pin 6 H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT not used H2/19 BLUE** FACTORY HORN INPUT (Use Jumper to set polarity) not used H2/20 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT not used H2/21 WHITE/ BLUE ACTIVATION INPUT not used H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT not used H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT any wire NOT red (ac) any ignition coil or F.I.
H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT not used ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 9:11 PM
I see that the rear defogger output is good for 200 ma. I would think that the rear defogger draw more then that. Should install a relay for that. Also can I put the heated seats on that relay. If anyone has wired the heated seats to work with the electric start I wondering how and what wires.
Thanks again
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: December 03, 2013 at 3:42 PM
I got my transponder bypass in the mail today. I opened it up and there is no instructions in the box. its a driected xpresskit pkfm. How do i wire this up to my python 414 electric start.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: December 03, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Here is the link to the PKFM w/PKFORD firmware install guide: https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6492&productid=202&firmwareid=212
If you decide to go with the D2D connection mode, there will be only 3 wires to connect to the car. PKFM Ford 500 Transponder connector Pin 2: Green: TX Output Pin 3 WHITE/ Light Green Pin 7: Pink: RX Output Pin 4 Gray/Orange Pin 8: Orange: (+) Ignition Input Pin 1 Ignition ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: December 06, 2013 at 8:37 PM
One last thing before I put this in. The rear defroster is built into the climate control system. Does anyone know what wire the rear defroster is.
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 07, 2013 at 4:40 AM
Rear defrost should be pink negative trigger in the harness going to the climate control head.
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: December 07, 2013 at 7:31 AM
pink negitive trigger. is that what i hook the rear defroster out to?
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 07, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Yes as always test first
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
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