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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: first time 2005 ford 500

Posted By: dharvey1020
Subject: first time 2005 ford 500
Date Posted: November 29, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Well I want to try to install my first electric start. I have a python 414. I ordered a transponder bypass. I will be a tempting to install this in to a 2005 ford 500. This will be my first install any help on terminology would be awsome. Do I also have all the parts I need. I'm sure I will have other questions. I'll post as they come up. Thanks in advanced for all the help.



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Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 29, 2013 at 10:31 PM
I forgot the model number for transponder bypass that I bought. It's a express kit pkfm. The description said it should work with my car.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 4:48 AM

While I'm not a big fan of the PKFM ( had issues when it was XK04 ), it should work OK.  It should come flashed with the
PKFORD firmware.  You will need two working, non-clone, ignition keys to program the bypass module.  Here are the
transponder wire colors as listed by iDatalink :
 
Five Hundred  05-07   TX   Pin 3 WHITE/ Light Green           RX   Pin 4 Gray/Orange

The car is fairly basic with no big surprises for your remote start with keyless entry install.  Be aware that the Factory
hood pin ( if installed ) is the N.C. type and if you use it as the 414's hood pin input, you will need to change Menu 1,
Item 9 to Option 2.  If there is no Factory hood pin, use the one supplied in the 414 kit ( with no programming changes ).

Your next step should be to download all the wiring guide info from several sources and make up a wire chart.  Here
are some more wire guide sources :

Here is a link to Bulldog Security :  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp
Here is a link to Ready Remote :  https://www.readyremote.com/main.asp
Here is a link to AudioVox :  https://techservices.audiovox.com/AccessRequest.aspx    Sign-up & info is free.

If you post your wire connection chart ( Python 414 to vehicle ), forum members can review it and make suggestions and
or corrections before you start the install.

Last but not least, use a Digital Multi Meter to test the vehicles wires.  And every connection should be soldered for best
reliability. 



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 7:04 AM
Thank you that's great I'll get to work on that chart and post back




Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 4:03 PM
I worked on my wire connection chart and i will post it after this reply. Its the first one i have ever done so might be completely wrong. sorry if it is. There was some stuff i wasn't sure about. I left question marks in those spots. Some help with that would be great. on the instructions there was Auxiliary/shutdown harness, not sure what this is for. also how hard would it be to get the heated seats and rear defrosted to come on when i start the car.

Thanks again for all the help.




Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 4:07 PM
       Main Harness

Python 414        Ford 500     
H/1 red constant input   Red     
h/2 black chassis ground ?
h3 brown horn output   dark blue(-)
(h/4 whit/brown light flash isolation wire?) ?
(h/5 white pin 30 of light flash relay?) ?
(h/6 ground when armed output?)   ?


       Door lock harness

1 blue (-) unlock output   pink lt green (-)
2 empty
3 green        pink yellow (-)


       Remote start harness

h/1 pink(+)ing 1 input/output light GREEN/ purple
h/2 red white 12vdc constant input -     
h/3 orange accessory output gray / YELLOW     
h/4 starter output   drak green     
(h/5 red 12vdc constant for ign relay 1?)     (light GREEN/ purple?)
(h/6 pink/white ign 2 ?)   ?     
(h/7 pink black flex relay input ) ?
(h/8 red black constantant input for acc and starter relays?)         ?

  




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM

       Main Harness

Python 414          Ford 500     
H/1 red constant input           Red @ ignition switch harness    ***
h/2 black chassis ground     Chassis Ground
h/3 brown horn output           dark blue(-) in steering column
h/4 whit/brown light flash isolation wire?)   not used
h/5 white pin 30 of light flash relay?) BLACK/ lt. green (-)    @ headlight switch
h/6 ground when armed output?)     not used

       Door lock harness

1 blue (-) unlock output    pink/lt green (-) @ DKP
2 empty
3 green (-) lock output      pink / YELLOW (-) @ DKP

       Remote start harness

h/1 pink(+)ing 1 input/output light GREEN/ purple  @ ignition switch harness  
h/2 red white 12vdc constant input       not used     
h/3 orange accessory output gray / YELLOW  @ ignition switch harness    
h/4 starter output         dark green @ ignition switch harness       
h/5 red 12vdc constant for ign relay      Red @ ignition switch harness    ***
h/6 pink/white ign 2     not used     
h/7 pink black flex relay input              not used
h/8 red black +12V input for acc/starter         Red @ ignition switch harness    ***

*** There should be two Red +12V constant power wires in the main ignition switch harness.  Split the load between them.

H2/1 PNK/WHITE (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT   not used
H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT          chassis ground
H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT     ???
H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT     lt. blue/black (-)    @ driver kick
H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT           pink/orange (-)  @ switch
H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR INPUT*     not used
H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT not used
H2/8 EMPTY ------------------------------------
H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT bypass module, if W2W mode
H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT        not used
H2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT   not used
H2/12 VIOLET (+) DOOR INPUT   not used
H2/13 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT not used
H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT            not used
H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT         not used
H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT               RED / lt. green  +  switch
H2/17 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO)      ***Set to N.C.           PURPLE / orange (-)  pin switch or SJB, conn. A, pin 6
H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT not used
H2/19 BLUE** FACTORY HORN INPUT (Use Jumper to set polarity)    not used
H2/20 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT   not used
H2/21 WHITE/ BLUE ACTIVATION INPUT not used
H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT          not used
H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT       any wire NOT red (ac)  any ignition coil or F.I.

H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT        not used



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: November 30, 2013 at 9:11 PM
I see that the rear defogger output is good for 200 ma. I would think that the rear defogger draw more then that. Should install a relay for that. Also can I put the heated seats on that relay. If anyone has wired the heated seats to work with the electric start I wondering how and what wires.
Thanks again




Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: December 03, 2013 at 3:42 PM
I got my transponder bypass in the mail today. I opened it up and there is no instructions in the box. its a driected xpresskit pkfm. How do i wire this up to my python 414 electric start.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: December 03, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Here is the link to the PKFM w/PKFORD firmware install guide:
 https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6492&productid=202&firmwareid=212

If you decide to go with the D2D connection mode, there will be only 3 wires to connect to the car.
PKFM        Ford 500 Transponder connector
Pin 2:  Green: TX Output   Pin 3 WHITE/ Light Green          
Pin 7: Pink: RX Output    Pin 4 Gray/Orange
Pin 8: Orange: (+) Ignition Input   Pin 1 Ignition



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Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: December 06, 2013 at 8:37 PM
One last thing before I put this in. The rear defroster is built into the climate control system. Does anyone know what wire the rear defroster is.




Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 07, 2013 at 4:40 AM
Rear defrost should be pink negative trigger in the harness going to the climate control head.

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: dharvey1020
Date Posted: December 07, 2013 at 7:31 AM
pink negitive trigger. is that what i hook the rear defroster out to?




Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 07, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Yes as always test first

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe





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