06 saturn ion standard trans rap shut off
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=135493
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Topic: 06 saturn ion standard trans rap shut off
Posted By: short4stuff
Subject: 06 saturn ion standard trans rap shut off
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Just installed a remote start (prostart ct-3471tw) with a pljx bypass mod. Just have the start function set-up, working ok.
Need to know how to turn off RAP (Retained accesory power) after doing a remote start ready mode.
I guess I need to pulse a door switch inorder to turn this off. Its a standard trans so I could pulse the passenger door (so it doesnt disable ready mode)
could I do this through the trunk release, lock/unlock button on the remote?
Anyone done this yet?
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Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 2:07 PM
You can pulse the driver door pin with the factory alarm rearm wire. (-) gray/black at the door pin switch. What are you referring to by saying remote start ready mode?
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Posted By: short4stuff
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Since its a standard trans I have to put it into "ready mode" (engine running, park brake up, hit button on remote, turn key off, engine stays running get out, close the door and then hit the button and it will shut off the car.) its now in ready mode.. But if I pulse the driver door pin I believe it will take it out of ready mode, thats why I was going to pulse the pass door pin, with the trunk release button I think.
The wire for the trunk release on the remote start it a - trunk output, and I'm not sure if that will short it out.
Posted By: short4stuff
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 2:38 PM
The remote start has a (-) rearm output, also now I see. So if i put that to the - grey/black door pin switch I should be ok?
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 2:48 PM
By standard do you mean auto or manual transmission because it sounds like you are doing a manual transmission takeover.
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Posted By: short4stuff
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Manual transmission
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Did you wire the remote start to monitor all the door pins or just the drivers door?
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Posted By: short4stuff
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 3:08 PM
just the driver door
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Does the radio shut down when only the passenger door is opened? If so, connect the (-) rearm wire to the passenger door pin. I have had issues with locking the doors because of the rearm wire connected to the door pin.
It all depends on the timing of the lock output and the rearm output so the vehicle doesn't think you are locking the car with the doors open. If the radio shuts down and the timing of the lock and rearm outputs are correct this will work.
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Posted By: short4stuff
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 4:13 PM
I just hooked the rearm wire to the driver door pin. I might switch it to the pass door pin one day.
With it hooked to the driver door pin, if the lock button is pushed while the car is in ready mode it will take it out (start module thinks the door was opened)
But thank you for your help.
This is the way I wire up the car.. plus the rearm wire to shut off rap. (the poster didnt talk about rap here)
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~116703
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 4:20 PM
I would definitely hook the rearm to the passenger door pin if the RAP shutdown works with the passenger door. Just out of curiosity, do your power locks with the remote start work correctly with the rearm wire hooked up.
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Posted By: short4stuff
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I also didnt hook up the power locks to the remote start..
but on the oem key fob they do work with it setup as is.
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: December 08, 2013 at 7:20 PM
short4stuff wrote:
With it hooked to the driver door pin, if the lock button is pushed while the car is in ready mode it will take it out (start module thinks the door was opened)
If you didnt hook up the power locks from the remote start then how is this possible. The starter should never know that you locked the doors. You would have to lock the doors with the remote starter which would pulse the rearm wire to show that the door was opened.
I imagine the rearm is pulsed during shutdown after the intial ready mode is engaged causing the unit to think a door was opened. By you hitting the lock button after setting the ready mode, that's what is causing you to think the lock button is to blame.
Switch the rearm wire to the passenger door pin and the problem is resolved. ------------- I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: December 09, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Try setting ready mode and watch the radio. Every one I've seen so far will time out after anywhere from 2 minutes to 15 minutes. As long as it times out, you don't need to worry about it. Otherwise you will probably have to wire up a relay that will open the door trigger input to the alarm while pulsing the vehicle (so the remote starter doesn't see the signal that is sent). Also, you should have all doors monitored for the ready mode. Otherwise it's essentially useless because anyone can go in your passenger door and put the car in gear (even if by accident).
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
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