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Hi Guys,

Installed Prostart 2-way Remote starter with idatalink bypass and have a few issues:
- Cannot program the bypass (after choosing the proper connection, nothing happens when I turn the key in both data or hard wire hookup)
- Truck will not shift from park
- I'm getting the door ajar message even though all doors are closed

Details are as following:

Truck: 2010 Ford F150 Lariat
Starter: Prostart CT-3471TW
Bypass: idatalink ADS-TBSL-TI

Wires connected:

Remote start <-> Truck

6 wire harness:
Yellow Ignition(Yes)
Red 12V(Yes)
Orange Accessories (Yes)
Purple Starter (Yes)
Green 5th Relay (NO)

5 wire harness:
1 - Black Ground (-)(Yes)
2 - Purple Tach (AC)(Yes)
3 - Grey Hood Switch (-)(Yes)
4 - Orange - Brake switch (+)(Yes)
5 - Yellow Parking Light (+) (Yes)

Remote Start <-> Bypass

Data harness

Bypass <-> Truck

TX
RX

Any help will be appreciated, thank you.

Have you metered all fuses? Do you have constant power at the ignition harness? Did you unplug any connectors in the truck? Are they all properly seated/connected? Did you unplug anything at the sjb? Is it reconnected correctly?

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I checked the fuses, seem to be fine, i have to sources of power the unit has to red wires for constant power no issues. I did unplug a few connections, one was were i hooked up lights, the other one i was going to put door locks on but changed my mind as it was to tight in there. Anyways, both connections were plugged back in, and i did check them a few time when looking for the solution to my problems. Although there might be door ajar sensors there with the lock unlock. Would i have to reset something? I'm not sure what sjb is.
Thank you.

By the way, everything else works, i can remote start with the key in the ignition, or by using the key, it will stop if i push brakes, brake lights are working, lights are working as they should with and without remote start. I can program the unit.

sjb = Smart Junction Box

Yes, those are the two in SJB

The plugs you disconnected at the SJB, we're any the lever type? I know sometimes those kind feel like they are seated but infact need to be reseated cause they're just not quite making the trip.

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Sounds like the the bypass isn't getting ignition power to me.

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dasbogie, you were 100% correct, i pulled on the smaller plug with the lever, it came out, plugged it back in and everything works again. Thank you very much.

buddholly, sounds like you are correct, but i tried to connect it through data cable from the unit, and connected it to ground when running output from the unit with no luck.
I also tried to program the unit:
mode 4 -> function 4 - bypass has3 options
1 ads 1w d2d
2 xpresskit 2w dwd
3 fortin 1w d2d

Switch that to option 1 but still no luck

Would those options even matter in the hard wire option?

Thank you.

did you connect the ignition wire from the bypass to the remote starter or to the vehicle? the pink wire from the bypass must be connected to ignition source in either no matter which installation (d2d,w2w) you choose. Glad to hear you got your door trigger situation sorted out.

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its on the wire from the remote start, I'll start over after work today, hopefully it will give in.

Have another question. I have heated and ventilated seats in the truck, is it possible to make those work with my setup? I was searching for the solution with no luck, some were saying its impossible.

Dasbogie, thank you for your help, its my first installation, and its great to have expert's advise.

I tried both connections again with no luck, the "(-) ground when running output wire" doesn't do anything.

Could it be programming?

It has 2 spots where its talking about bypass:

Function 4 - Bypass
   Option 1 ADS (1W D2D)
   Option 2 Xpresskit (2W D2D)
   Option 3 Fortin (1W D2D)

Function 5 - Bypass Type
   Option 1 One Way Communication
   Option 2 Two Way Communication

What options should i select? Again, does it matter in a hard wire mode at all, is there any other way to do this? Is there anything I can test or switch for this to work?

Thank you.

Those options shouldn't make a difference in hardwire mode. Just to be clear as far as the bypass goes, You are pressing and holding the programming button whilst plugging in the power plug, then when the led starts to go nuts, leave go of the button and wait till it flashes green. It should give you one green blink, then you will press and release the programming button once and it will give you a double green blink. Then you press and hold the programming button to lock in w2w mode, the light turns solid green then goes out. Then you proceed to program the bypass to the vehicle with the keys

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Some wire charts list the heated seats as WHITE/ blue - left front and gray / YELLOW - right front. They are both negative trigger but doesn't list them as being latched or pulsed. You will want to meter the wire to find out. You can find them at the hvac control module

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Correct, flushes red, then stays red, then green blinker, can switch to single or double blink by pressing the programming button, hold the button, stays green then nothing.

When I put the key in, start the truck, leave it in different positions nothing happens, I have 2 keys.

So with the seats i just have to see if that wire stays negative or just a quick read and back to nothing while i press the button? Does it matter that there are 3 different heat intensity settings?

with your meter can you verify you have 12 volts ignition on the pink wire right at the bypass. Even if the rx and tx were wrong, the led on the ads module should blink red rapidly when it sees ignition.

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Just did, and yes when i turned the key got ~12 volts on the pink wire at the bypass.

did you splice into the rx and tx wires right at the connector or further down the harness ? There are some of the same wire color in that main harness that goes up the column. Did you double/triple check you have the right rx and tx vehicle wires and bypass wires connected?

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right at the connector, maybe an 1" from it, I unplugged it and it was ease enough to do. There are not that many wires involved i'll re-check them all again. How do i test "Ground when running"? What i did before, i checked it the same as i would for regular ground, is this the way to go? Because i didn't get any readings when the truck was off or running.

It looks like GWR from the prostart is a white wire which will show a latched ground signal as soon as you press the remote start button on the remote and that should connect to the blue/white GWR input on the bypass. You can check the output from the prostart by taking your positive meter probe and putting it to 12 volts and your ground probe to the white wire, activate the remote start and it should meter 12volts. Kill the remote start and it should go back to 0. If you take the blue/white GWR wire from the bypass and ground it, does the led on the bypass do anything, what color if so?

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Just did, that works just like you described, but still no luck with programming. How long do i have to hold the key in each position, and do i have to start the truck. Thank you.

I also noticed that happens only if i start with the remote starter but not when i start with the key, is that suppose to be like that? Thank you.

once you have done the factory reset and locked in which wiring mode on the ads module, then start the key programming you turn the key to the on/run position, do not start the vehicle. You only have to leave it there 3 or 4 seconds but the led on the bypass should light solid red with each key you turn to on position then go out

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I had the key in for about 10 seconds, nothing happened, but when i was turning it off i noticed a quick red blink. Nothing happened with the second key.

with key off, does the light on the bypass respond when you ground the blue/white GWR?

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Got it working, as before you were right from the very beginning, TX, RX wires were connected wrong. I was looking at the wrong diagram in the manual, for some reason i was sure it should be diagram A when it was diagram E, which was the same but going other direction.
Anyways, thank you very much for taking your time to walk me through this, if you ever need any advice on the industrial insulation i'm your man.