fortin evo all w/ ultra start 1272pro

Hi All,

I have a few questions concerning the install of a Fortin Evo-All paired with an UltraStart 1272 system.

I am installing this in a 2009 Kia Sedona.

Question 1 is that I have seen quite a few posts that would recommend using a W2W install as opposed to the Data-Link for connection of the two modules.
What are the pros and cons?

Question 2 is in reading the installation material provided by Fortin on their site and the companion WireColor site, I have become confused as to which wires from which module actually attach to the vehicle. What looks like the proper way to me is to connect to both the Can Bus and Can Bus 2 lines, the Red Data Line and the Ignition wire directly with the Fortin unit.
Then you would attach the Horn, Brake and parking light wires to the Ultra unit.

Am I reading this correctly or have I missed something?

Any help would be appreciated.

Yes.  Good news and bad news.

The EVO-ALL bypass module, flashed with the correct firmware, will save you a bunch of wire connections to the vehicle.
Reference the table on Page 4 of the install guide for exactly which features are supported.  Then go to Connection 28
to see the actual wire connections.

The U1272 is only 1-way compatible with the EVO-ALL through the D2D cable.  That means that commands from the U1272
going to the EVO-ALL work.  Signals coming back from the EVO-ALL won't work and need to be hard-wired.  So Lock, Unlock
and maybe Right Sliding Door will work through D2D but Tach and Brake must be hard-wired.

Also note that on your U.S. market Sedona, there probably isn't a transponder based ignition immobilizer system (no Red
data wire ), so that connection isn't necessary and you will use Programming #2 instead of #3.

Finally, the EVO-ALL connection diagram only shows its' needed connections.  Aside from the Horn and Parking Lights,
you will have to connect the thick gauge ignition wires from the U1272 to the Sedona.   As follows :
   U1272    6 Pin Ignition Harness          Sedona
1 Yellow  (+) Starter Output   orange  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 1
2 Green (+) Accessory Output            blue  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 3
3 Red (+) +12V constant     white (30A)  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 5
4 Red (+) +12V constant     white (30A)  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 5
5 White (+) Flex Relay Output          pink  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 4   *** Set to ACC2
6 Blue (+) Ignition Output    green  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 6   +  EVO-ALL Yellow wire

Personally, I would go W2W all the way, it's only a few more wires.  Done on the bench prior to install makes it quick, easy
and much neater.  Also, you can connect the U1272 RED / White Trunk Release wire to the EVO-ALL's right sliding door wire
and possibly use the U1272 Black AUX1 output for the left sliding door, if you have it and don't have a Factory Alarm system.

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Awesome!!

You are the bomb!

Thank you so much for the helping hand, I truly felt helpless looking at the two separate directions.

You're quite welcome.  The U1272 is a nice system.  It has some great features for a very reasonable price.  Programming it is easy, too.

Almost forgot the most important U1272 wire.  The Black Chassis Ground connection should be made using a soldered-on terminal ring to a clean, rust-free solid metal frame location.

Good luck with the install.  

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