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2014 kia soul key start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=135639
Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 9:02 PM


Topic: 2014 kia soul key start

Posted By: chev104275
Subject: 2014 kia soul key start
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Just finished an install on one. This one has no factory alarm and no auto lights but it does have factory anti grind.

Just a heads up readyremote.com has the correct wiring (its different than the previous years).

The only issues I ran into was the locks. If the car is locked with either the factory remote or door switch. After a min or so the aftermarket remote won't unlock the doors. I ended up hooking up the factory disarm wire to the disarm wire in the car (again no factory alarm) and it seems to work normal now.

I tried to make a pictorial but the pics came out horrible. Wasn't worth it I will try again on the next one.

Happy New Year Stay Safe

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Oh, no!   KIA has a GEM module!      posted_image       Thanks for the update.  Still no transponder in the U.S. market vehicles?

I have those camera problems, too, usually focus and washed out wire colors.

and a Happy New Year, back at you, sir!



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Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM
No transponder unless its a PTS system in the US, but I think they keep making the ignition harness shorter and shorter just mess with us.

Did you do tech doc 1300 for the lock/unlock? I'm having good luck using my workaround, no diodes or relay required. Slight delay on unlock but I've had no complaints on it so far.

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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM
No transponder just the newer Kia integrated flip fob and key combo. The factory remotes don't work when the car is running. I did a 4103 in that one

Buddholy you are correct the ingition harness is really short

I've never done that tech doc. Don't think I've ever seen it. What is your workaround ?

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 7:44 PM
I think they've revised it since this one was added to the downloads section, I will have to add the new one tomorrow.

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1085

Most of the kia/hyundais since about 2006-07 have a detection wire that needs to be integrated to get the doors to successfully lock and unlock. I always double pulse the detection wire using factory disarm, double pulse the key unlock wire with the unlock wire, and either have to pulse the lock or key lock wire depending on the vehicle. If you look at the wiring diagram under factory arm and disarm, you will see what I mean by the key lock and key unlock wires. The unlock always has a slight delay (most likely due to the double pulse) but nothing really noticable to the client. Lock works but not sure if it arms the factory alarm or not, most I have worked on haven't had factory alarm so it's no concern.

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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM
I knew about the lock detection wire. May have to give your way a try. I usually use the 2 turn unlock relay diode isolated from the unlock wire. A single pulse on the wire unlocks the drivers door and wakes up the bcm and then the unlock wire does the rest of the doors.

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Please do and let me know. I've done it on a 2013 Sportage, 2012 Rio, 2007 Santa Fe and a 2010 Sorento all this year with success and quite a few vehicles last year. The only thing that seems to vary is whether you need to pulse the lock or key lock wire.

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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 8:00 PM
I do tons of Kia vehicles. Did 4 today 14 forte, 13 soul, 14 soul, 13 rio.

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 8:07 PM
Staying busy then haha, I'm booked out until 1/22 already..We do lots of them too. What remote starts are you normally installing?

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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Mostly dei 4103 and 4113s

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: December 28, 2013 at 8:33 PM
did tons of those last year. we carry the new 4105 and 4115 with dedicated d2d and esp ports now...and the d2d actually works on them now. virtual tach seems to be working really good on them as well, except for on the kia's...

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