2009 dodge journey

Hi everyone, I have a good buddy of mine that wants to install a viper 5704 on his 2009 dodge journey. what is the best bypass module to use? DBALL, idatalink ADS-ALCA, ADS-ALSL CH,ADS-DLSL CA2 OR EVO-ALL???

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Aurelio Zamora

They all will work fine. I personally like the idatalink and evo all. They seem to be less problematic.

OK, personal opinion time...

First, I have never used a DB-ALL for that application.  The DB-ALL would be the obvious first choice due to the D2D option.

I have used the EVO-ALL and the ADS AL-CA.  If you can get the ADS AL-CA flashed with the DBI-AL(DL)-CH4 firmware that would
allow a D2D install.  Same goes for the EVO-ALL, it can be flashed with the D2D option selected to allow D2D comm with the Viper. 
However, I still have more confidence in the W2W mode.  Yes, it's a lot of connections, but it always works well.  Going W2W, you
could use the standard firmware flash ADS AL(DL) CH4 or the basic EVO-ALL firmware flash Ver 4.09 and up or Ver 74.xx.  If you
have the Fortin FlashLink USB cable, you could do the firmware flash and set some advanced options as necessary.  With the
iDatalink module, besides the ADS USB cable, you would need to have registered Dealer access to flash the module.

The iDatalink SOLO series come with the iDatalink D2D and can't go D2D with the Viper.  They can go W2W, though.

Either unit, EVO-ALL or ADS AL-CA, is a solid choice.   Personally, I like the EVO-ALL for that application.

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Hi, Thank you for your recommendations. I have read a lot of good things about the EV0-ALL. So the winner is the EVO-ALL flashed with Hardware 4 and Firmware 4.09 per the installation guide. Also the THAR-CHR4 T-HARNESS.

The following is how we are planning to proceed with the install. We would really appreciate If any of you guys could see if we are on the right path. thank you... IF ANY ERRORS PLEASE HELP AND COMMENT.

Viper 5704    2009 Dodge Journey or EVO-ALL

H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT    +12V Constant Battery Source
H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND Solid Chassis Ground
H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN 0UTPUT       Viper Siren      
H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN PARKING LIGHT 87A    Not Used
H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUT set to (+)        WHITE/ Purple (+) in Passenger Kick panel
H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA G W A 0UTPUT   Not Used     

H2/1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY    Not Used
H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT        Chassis Ground ( if Auto Trans )       
H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOG        Not Used
H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM     Not Used
H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT   Not Used
H2/6 GREEN (-) D00R TRIGGER INPUT (N/C 0R N/0)     EVO Green Plug A, Pin A4  
H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPER   Yellow/white (+) using a relay.    
H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT     Not Used
H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT     EVO Dark Blue Plug 4, Pin A8     
H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITI0N 1 OUTPUT        Not Used
H2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT    Not Used
H2/12 VIOLET (+) D00R TRIGGER INPUT Not Used   
H2/13 WHITE/ VlOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT  Not Used  
H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT  Not Used       
H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT  Not Used  
H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTD0WN INPUT     EVO Black Plug A, Pin A11   
H2/17 GREY (-) H00D PIN INPUT (N/C 0R N/0)      EVO Pink/Black Plug A, Pin A15
H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT   Not Used      
H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN / INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/O)     Not Used       
H2/20 GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT T0 START INPUT      Not Used   
H2/21 WHITE'/BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER INPUT     Not Used       
H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT  Not Used       
H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT       EVO Pink Plug A, Pin A12
H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT  Not Used

H3 heavy wires
1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT  To EVO Yellow Plug A, Pin A1 and Yellow Wire THAR-CHR4
2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED IGNITION 2  Not Used     
3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT     Not Used
4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)     EVO RED / Blue Plug A, Pin A9  
5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)      Not Used
6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT     +12V Constant Battery Source       
7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY    Not Used
8 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A Not Used
9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT      +12V Constant Battery Source     

Door Lock
1 Blue (-) 500 mA Unlock   EVO PURPLE / White Plug A, Pin A3
2 Green (-) 500mA Lock     EVO Purple Plug A, Pin A2

EVO-ALL wiring
using the THAR-CHR4 harness

THAR-CHR4 Data-Link 4 Pin Conn. installa guide shows that it supplys the 12v and ground to remote start.
since using 12v constant from battery source. Is this connection still required?

THAR-CHR4 5-PIN CONN. connected to EVO as show on intall guide.
THAR-CHR4 6-PIN CONN. connected as shown on install guide.

IF ANY ERRORS, CORRECTIONS WOULD REALLY BE APPRECIATED IT....
THANK YOU GUYS AND HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY....

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Aurelio Zamora

The EVO-ALL lists a Hatch Release function so you could connect the Viper H2/5 RED / White Trunk Release to this EVO-ALL wire :
H2/5 to EVO-ALL Plug A Pin A-13

Don't think the H2/7 Dome Light Supervision is necessary.  Do the interior lights come on with a Unlock from the Factory Remotes?

The EVO-ALL can only supply a Hood Status Output if the Journey has a factory hood pin installed.  Test to ensure the Journey
has the hood pin.  If not, install the Viper kit supplied hood pin.

For Viper alarm purposes, you should connect this Viper wire, H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN / INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/O) to the
EVO-ALL (-) Trunk Status at Pin A-5.

Remember that the EVO-ALL controls the Journey's Factory Alarm with a Lock or Unlock.  If you have the Factory Alarm, you
might have to do a Unlock before and a Lock after remote start-up to prevent triggering the Journey's factory alarm.   The Fortin
Flashlink cable makes this real easy in the EVO-ALL's Advanced Settings

Think everything else is good.  Good luck on the install.

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Thank you Kreg357, just received email that the EVO-ALL and the Fortin flashlink cable will be arriving next week. will take pictures of the install...
How can one tell if journey has factory alarm, the key fob only has lock and unlock buttons, but that doesn't necessary mean it has factory alarm or does it??? Again thanks for all the help on this install and on previous install.....

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Aurelio Zamora

To test for a Factory Alarm system, try this :
1.  With engine running, roll down drivers door window.
2.  Turn off engine.
3.  Exit car and with door open press the doors interior Lock button,
4.  Close the door.
5.  Wait 2 minutes.
6.  Reach in to car thru open window and open the door with the interior handle.
7.  The horn will start beeping if you have the Factory Alarm system.

If you have the Factory alarm, check for the Hood Pin with this procedure :
1.  Start with the engine running.
2.  Turn off engine.
3.  Open the door and press the doors interior Lock button.
4.  Stay seated and close the door.
5.  Wait 2 minutes.
6.  Pop the hood with the interior hood release.
7.  The horn will start beeping if you have the Factory Hood Pin.
 
The Flashlink cable *** will make things easier if you have the Factory Alarm.  With it you can set the EVO-ALL to do the "Unlock
before and Lock after remote start" routine.  Plus you can use the newer 74.xx firmware.

***The FlashLink cable is used to flash the firmware onto the EVO-ALL.  The THAR-CHR4 harness is only used to simplify the install.

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