2005 toyota tacoma, manual transmission

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Printed Date: May 31, 2024 at 11:32 PM

Topic: 2005 toyota tacoma, manual transmission

Posted By: bat9905
Subject: 2005 toyota tacoma, manual transmission
Date Posted: February 04, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Hi I guided a coworker to installing an aps 997 c prestige in a 05 Tacoma . I didn't recommend using relay to bypass clutch but gave in info to do it . There has got be be a way to ensure truck is in neutral with all the extra options on alarm similar to compustar units. Any idea? Just trying to prevent damages

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bat9905

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February 04, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Below is the first sentence in the APS 997 C install guide ( after the programming tables ).

This Remote Start/Alarm System is designed to be used with Automatic Transmission- Fuel Injection
Vehicles Only!

While some manual transmission vehicles have an actual "Neutral Safety" wire ( i.e. Subaru's ), the liability issues arising from
an install like this could be astronomical. Bottom line, only a remote start system that is approved by the manufacturer for a
manual transmission should be installed in a manual transmission vehicle.

I sincerely hope no one gets injured from this install and strongly suggest it gets removed. A proper / safe system costs about the same.

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Soldering is fun!

Posted By: racerjames76
Date Posted: February 05, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Agree with Kreg here. Take the avox unit out and get a dei unit. It is still a liability so solder every connection. Imagine a lawyer looking at your install! posted_image

Cover your hind quarters.

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To master and control electricity is perfection. *evil laugh*

Posted By: bat9905
Date Posted: February 05, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Yes I'm aware of what the manual says. I didn't install the system. I simply helped him with finding wires. Of course I wouldn't do this for someone I hardly know . I wouldn't be held liable for accidents. If anyone can tell me where I could find a two way remote start alarm for 129.00 I'd be impressed. He understands he is responsible

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bat9905

Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February 06, 2014 at 3:12 AM

Sometimes it's hard to put a price on safety. Even harder to put a price on a child's life that was playing in the driveway when
the car is remote started. It's installs like this that give this industry a bad reputation.

Any time you bypass the clutch interlock switch, you are bypassing a very important safety feature. No one is perfect, mistakes
can happen. If the transmission is left in gear, the 2 ton vehicle will move during the remote start, even with the Parking Brake
fully engaged. Do a search on YouTube to see some of the results.

You can find decent two-way remote start with keyless entry and alarm systems that are manual transmission safe for around
$130. Ultra Start makes the U4296M system ( https://www.ultrastarters.com/product_pages/4296m.htm ). Viper makes the 5701
( 520x ) system and ones that have been manufacturer refurbished sell for $120 - $140. Here is a link to the 5201V owners
manual : https://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/OG/Viper/g5210v%202012-06%20web2.pdf

Sorry to be so negative on this. I am not worried about losing business. I'm not worried about the vehicle or a garage door,
insurance companies can handle that. I am concerned about someones child being hurt or worse.

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Soldering is fun!