viper keyless entry in 2008 pontiac g6
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=136221
Printed Date: May 08, 2024 at 5:50 PM
Topic: viper keyless entry in 2008 pontiac g6
Posted By: riverdogg
Subject: viper keyless entry in 2008 pontiac g6
Date Posted: March 04, 2014 at 4:59 PM
I'm planning on installing a Viper 211HV keyless entry unit on a 2008 Pontiac G6 later this week. Its been a while since I've done anything like this so I'm hoping to get a quick double check on my plan from some of you to see if I missed something or messed up on something. I also have a few questions at the bottom. If you have any tips I'd be glad to hear them too. Thanks!
H1/1____RED_______________(+) 12V CONSTANT POWER INPUT________________RED / BLACK (+)__________@ BCM, Red 41-Pin plug Pin D1, "X3"
H1/2____BLUE _____________(-) 200 mA SECOND UNLOCK OUTPUT______________not used
H1/3____BLACK/ WHITE -1____INPUT OF DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION RELAY #87______ not used
H1/4____BLACK/ WHITE______OUTPUT OF DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION RELAY #30____not used
H1/5____GREEN/ BLACK ______LOCK #30 COMMON OUTPUT_____________________WHITE______________@ BCM, Connector #1 Pin 66 or 67 Negative
H1/6____WHITE/ BLACK ______LOCK #87 NORMALLY CLOSED____________________not used
H1/7____VIOLET/BLACK______LOCK #87 NORMALLY OPEN (INPUT)_______________GROUND
H1/8____BLUE/BLACK_______UNLOCK #30 COMMON (OUTPUT)_________________WHITE_______________@ BCM, Connector #1 Pin 66 or 67 (with 1500 OHM resistor between Viper and Pontiac)
H1/9____VIOLET___________UNLOCK #87 NORMALLY OPEN (INPUT)_____________GROUND
H1/10___WHITE___________(+/-) PARKING LIGHT FLASH OUTPUT________________BROWN / WHITE (-) _____@ BCM, Connector #1 Pin 16 (set jumper on Viper to (-) )
H1/11___BLACK___________(-) CHASSIS GROUND INPUT_______________________GROUND
H1/12___BROWN__________(-) HORN HONK OUTPUT_________________________TAN (-)________________@ BCM, Connector #2 Pin 14
H1/13___LT. GREEN/ BLACK___FACTORY ALARM DISARM________________________LIGHT GREEN (-)_______@ BCM, Connector #1 Pin 35
H1/14___WHITE/ BLUE_______(-) 200 mA CHANNEL 3 VALIDITY OUTPUT___________not used
H1/15___YELLOW__________(+) SWITCHED IGNITION INPUT (ACCESSORY)_________PINK (+)______________@ IGNITION SWITCH, GREEN 6-PIN PLUG
H1/16 ORANGE___________(-) 500 mA GROUND-WHEN-ARMED OUTPUT_________ not used
H1/17 BROWN / BLACK______UNLOCK #87A NORMALLY CLOSED_________________ not used
H1/18 RED / WHITE_________(-) OUTPUT OF CHANNEL 2 (TRUNK RELEASE)________CONNECT TO RELAY____@ BCM in GRAY 72-PIN PLUG, PIN 71
Relay Connections for Trunk Release
Pin 30: BROWN / WHITE (-) IN PONTIAC (@ BCM in GRAY 72-PIN PLUG, PIN 71)
Pin 85: H1/18 RED / WHITE
Pin 86: (+)12V CONSTANT (FUSED)
Pin 87: (-) GROUND
Pin 87a: not used
Questions
1. Does anyone know if this car’s locks are normally open or normally closed? I’m assuming normally open. Once I’m in there I’ll test the wires, but it would be nice to know beforehand.
2. Do I need a resistor or fuse or anything between Pins 85 and 86 on the relay?
4. What size fuse would you recommend for the 12V constant on the relay?
3. On Bulldog's wiring guide for this car, for the constant power wire is says: @ BCM, Red 41-Pin plug Pin D1, "X3". What does the "X3" mean? Or should I not even worry about it?
Replies:
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 04, 2014 at 8:21 PM
The X1, X2 and X3 denotes the three connectors on the BCM. Here is a photo of a 2011 Malibu's BCM with the connectors marked :
You might not need the relay for the Trunk Release. I believe a low current (-) pulse will pop the trunk.
The 211HV's Lock/Unlock Normally Closed wires would be used on vehicles that needed 5 wire REV control. Your wiring is good
for the Type B (-) locks.
------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: riverdogg
Date Posted: March 04, 2014 at 8:38 PM
Thanks for the picture kreg. That explains the mysterious X3.
I was unsure if I needed the relay. I read that if I need a relay and didn't use one, it could burn out something in the car. But now that I'm writing this, I'm not sure that's right. The signal would either be strong enough or not, right? I'll put it in without the relay and see if it works. If it does work without a relay, am I good to go without worrying about a future problem?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 04, 2014 at 9:04 PM
Re : Trunk Release
If the G6 wire is the same gauge as the Lock wire, you will be fine. Bulldog Security sometimes lists a relay as necessary because some of their units only have a (+) Trunk Release output and would need to be converted to (-) for your G6. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: riverdogg
Date Posted: March 04, 2014 at 9:06 PM
Gotcha. Thanks for responding so quickly.
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