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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 6:41 PM


Topic: temp controlled remote start

Posted By: dcreyop
Subject: temp controlled remote start
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Anyone out there know of an alarm that can be set to turn on the vehicle when it hits a certain temp?  I saw that an earlier post that said a Viper 5901 had this feature but when I called Crutchfield they said no.  I need this feature to keep my dog from overheating in the summers out here.  I don't usually keep her in the car but I'd like to have this for the times when its absolutley necessary. 

If not, maybe a car alarm where the remote start has no time limit?

Oh and don't worry. I'm a dog love and I'm installing a temp alarm with it.  I wouldn't risk my dogs life.



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Dcreyop



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Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:04 PM
a dei 556t will trigger the remote start up to once per hour when it hits your preset temp and keeping a pet alive would be difficult unless you set the remote start run to a longer time and even with all that if your pet got in the drivers floor and bumped the brake pedal shutting off the motor you may end up having a pet funeral and a not so good news story about you.
its all very risky.

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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.




Posted By: dcreyop
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:09 PM
Yeah, its pretty risky bad thing tho is it's completely necessary to have her there.  Thanks for the info!

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Dcreyop




Posted By: harryharris
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:11 PM
I agree with itsyuk but if you're willing to go ahead, current successors to the 5901 ending in 06 all have temp. and timer control.

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Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:15 PM
there is no reason i could ever find to put my dog at risk like that.


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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.




Posted By: dcreyop
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:16 PM
I actually agree with both of you.  She's a work dog tho and the job makes it necessary sometimes.  It should never be for over an hour tho.  Thanks

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Dcreyop




Posted By: harryharris
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:19 PM
Always used to leave the windows open for my old Shepherd trouble was every time I street parked in Central London, I'd find parts of human hands in the car.

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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 4:59 PM
LOL!
Ain't it nice having finger food between jobs?




Posted By: qpham504
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 5:17 PM
Compustar does the same, just make sure you have the temp sensor or its a total fail. You can program the temp it needs and then program when you want it to start.




Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: March 31, 2014 at 5:56 PM
but doesnt the brake pedal shut off still figure as an issue?

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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.




Posted By: harryharris
Date Posted: April 01, 2014 at 1:04 AM
Of course unless the dog is physically separated from the front but forget my attempts at a joke itsyuk I'm with you on dogs in car for more than a few minutes and we don't have your climate extremes.

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Posted By: davep.
Date Posted: April 01, 2014 at 1:07 AM
I looked at the 556t schematic. I figured out a 3 relay array that could be triggered by the 556t 1 second output to interrupt the brake switch shutdown, only when the RS is commanded on by the 556t. The array would deactivate the brake bypass when a door is opened. Thus the dog couldn't shut off the RS by hitting the brake, but the car would be protected by restoring the brake shutdown by opening a door and canceling the bypass. (Not sure this is needed. Who in their right mind would open the door of a vehicle containing a "working dog"?)

I just rough-sketched this out. It will work with either (+) or (-) dome lights or door trigger. The brake bypass uses the NC contacts of its relay, so the fail mode of the array would leave the RS brake shutdown intact.

If you can find a 556t, and are interested, I'll draw it out legibly and post it.





Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: April 01, 2014 at 2:42 AM
sure but what if he pops the hood? what about that....HUH?
LOL

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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.




Posted By: harryharris
Date Posted: April 01, 2014 at 2:47 AM
I did have a Dane who could open the freezer and my Shepherd always tried to get to the phone first, come to think of it my Shepherd thought his name ended with "get in the back".

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Posted By: dcreyop
Date Posted: April 01, 2014 at 1:31 PM
davep. if you could do that it would be great.  Thanks!

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Dcreyop




Posted By: davep.
Date Posted: April 02, 2014 at 11:20 AM
dcreyop wrote:

davep. if you could do that it would be great.  Thanks!

The 556t has been discontinued. I did not find one for sale during a 5 minute search of the most likely places to find one...

Here's a description. Hopefully you can make a sketch, and figure out how it works from this:

Relay 1. (latched when activated)

85 - 87 of relay 1, and 85 of relay 2. And blue/wht of 556t, diode isolate, band towards 556t.
86 - 87a of relay 3
87 - 85 of relay 1
30 - Gnd

Relay 2 (brake shutdown interrupt)

85 - 85 of relay 1
86 - B+ (hot at all times)
Cut the RS brake shutdown wire in two. (DEI, this wire is brown)
87a - One side of brake shut down wire from brake switch
30 - Other side of brake shut down wire from brake switch

Relay 3 (Dome light cancel)

85 - (-)neg trigger input (from (-) trigger dome lights)
86 - B+ (hot at all times) (for (-) trigger dome lights)
87a - 86 of relay 1
30 - B+ (hot at all times)

For (+)positive trigger domelights (Fords)
85 - Gnd
86 - (+)pos trigger input

There is one caveat with this array. After the first 556t activation, 2 relays will stay energized indefinitely until a door is opened. If the 556t is activated, it does its 6 starts, then times out and you don't open a door for a couple of days, you will have a dead battery.

For (-) neg trigger dome lights, you could connect the Factory Alarm Rearm output from the RS to 85 of relay 3 (diode isolate, band towards RS, and a diode in wire to dome light, band towards dome light) to shut off the array each time. For (+)pos trigger dome lights you have to add a 4th relay for the FAR to cancel the array.

Kind of complicated. Be sure to find your 556t first. And give yer dog a cookie for me. Cheers.






Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: April 02, 2014 at 2:45 PM
i have several new 556T units.
35 bucks gets one shipped anywhere in the US.

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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.





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