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Topic: newbe, remote start with phone?

Posted By: brewfixer
Subject: newbe, remote start with phone?
Date Posted: April 14, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Hello all, new to this site but through reading some post it is very interesting and informative. So I have a question regarding factory remote starts and I am not sure where else to post in this forum.

Q1 - I have a 2014 Dodge Charger R/T with factory remote start. I would like to know if there is such a module or the likes thereof that would allow me to remote start my vehicle using a droid or iPhone app even if it came with a monthly subscription but it would need to work with existing factory system???

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Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: April 15, 2014 at 10:43 PM
theres a few different brands of products you can use. If it were me I would use a idatalink ads-al-ca with a t-harness and a drone mobile




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: April 16, 2014 at 6:25 AM
There's nothing on the market that'll trigger the factory remote starter in the car. I find it very frustrating that the manufacturers don't do anything for this.

That being said, like blanx218 mentioned, you don't need a complete remote starter---just one of the databus interface modules, and a phone device that's compatible with it.

Google the following:

Compustar Drone

Audiovox Car Connection Pro

Viper or Directed Electronics Smart Start

What you will find is that all of these devices vary wildly in price, but also there's a great variation in how much (if any) service is included, and how much the service costs after that.

For example, the new Car Connection Pro is somewhat on the less-expensive side (around $199 retail), but does not include any service. They only have one type of service plan----$10/month or $89/year. It includes all kinds of stuff like tracking the car's location by GPS, notification if the driver is speeding or leaves a certain area......but the problem is that you have to pay for all that stuff whether you want it or not.

Sorry I don't know a little more about the other systems, but you get the idea. Don't look at just the cost of the product, but also what it will cost to use it.

There are also lots of very confusing compatibility issues, so be sure to buy all the pieces from the same seller. For example, the Car Connection Pro is made to work with the Flashlogic FLCAN (which is a rebadged iDatalink ALCA), and the Viper unit is made to work with the DBALL.




Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: April 16, 2014 at 5:03 PM
If 2014 is same as 2013 a dball with rxt firmware paired with a smart start will do this and only require 4 wires all hooked up at the obdii connector




Posted By: brewfixer
Date Posted: April 16, 2014 at 8:46 PM
pentavolvo wrote:

If 2014 is same as 2013 a dball with rxt firmware paired with a smart start will do this and only require 4 wires all hooked up at the obdii connector


Well first thanks to all of you for providing this information. I was getting worried that this forum was dead.

So as I understand (or perhaps pretend to), there is a possibility that I can integrate a system or interface a module that would be compatible or work with the OEM system?

I am actually considering replacing the stock OEM head unit as soon as I can get support from the Maestro RR interface or similar. But I think the smartphone integration is a must as long as I am dropping that much money on a replacement control system.

I have emailed the companies mentioned and am awaiting response. Just so you know there is a fairly big community of Dodge Charger owners wanting this feature as we are crippled by the Chrysler company with a system that was entirely catered to Apple products. Also the fact that the Challenger and Dodge Grand Caravan was supported from the factory with smartphone integration did not leave a good taste being that the average 2014 Dodge Charger came with a $40k+ sticker price you would have thought they would have included this.

Thanks again for your response and if you think of other companies other companies to ask I would appreciate it if you can pass that along. I am working with a group of new Dodge Charger Owners who are trying to figure out a way of doing this...

Thanks Willy

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Posted By: tshumski
Date Posted: April 24, 2014 at 2:38 AM
At least you're not stuck with ford's sync system, have had crippling issues with those. Also, VSM50BT/DSM50BT should allow you to (un)lock/aux/remote start a vehicle via Bluetooth WITHOUT a subscription, but does not work via wifi or a mobile network. I am not sure of other companies offerings.




Posted By: brewfixer
Date Posted: April 28, 2014 at 6:49 PM
Well it was a short trail to nowhere. After calling a few of the vendors posted here they all shrugged. It appears that the only way to do what I am asking is to install an aftermarket Remote Start but there the buck stopped short as well because none could tell me how exactly does an aftermarket remote start play nice with a factory remote start system.
Almost all of them advised I talk to an installer so I did. Got the shrug again. The installer said it couldn't be done. By the way these were classified super installers for Viper and Python. None of which these 2 brands I can contact a technical person to speak with them.

So my hunt continues...

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Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: April 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM
Is the 13 same as 14 or did they change stuff?

Where in Wisconsin are you




Posted By: brewfixer
Date Posted: April 28, 2014 at 7:41 PM
pentavolvo wrote:

Is the 13 same as 14 or did they change stuff?

Where in Wisconsin are you


I am not 100% on the '13 to '14 differences but I think they are. I am in SE Wisconsin. Basically Milwaukee...

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Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: April 28, 2014 at 7:48 PM
Well I am in Lafayette Indiana but go to wauconda il a lot and if you wanted to come down I could fix you up. Let me try me confirm 14 is same as 13.




Posted By: brewfixer
Date Posted: April 28, 2014 at 8:00 PM
pentavolvo wrote:

Well I am in Lafayette Indiana but go to wauconda il a lot and if you wanted to come down I could fix you up. Let me try me confirm 14 is same as 13.


Let me know what you find out. At this point I am in the hunt with emails everywhere. I figure sooner or later someone will figure this out and get my business.

Thanks

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Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: April 28, 2014 at 8:32 PM
I can do it for you. Send me a pm and we can discuss




Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:04 PM
This is not a hard problem, Ive done these for customers already. The way I do it is I use a DBALL2 which retails for 100-120 bucks and a DEI SMARTSTART module that retails at 199.99. Its a simple install for an installer that knows what he is doing. It the requires a subscription of, and don't quote me on this, but I believe its 79.99 a year. Problem solved and the app works on both IOS and Android.

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Posted By: brewfixer
Date Posted: May 07, 2014 at 10:12 PM
Ravendarat wrote:

This is not a hard problem, Ive done these for customers already. The way I do it is I use a DBALL2 which retails for 100-120 bucks and a DEI SMARTSTART module that retails at 199.99. Its a simple install for an installer that knows what he is doing. It the requires a subscription of, and don't quote me on this, but I believe its 79.99 a year. Problem solved and the app works on both IOS and Android.


Thanks... Pentavolvo is hooking me up...

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Posted By: dswift
Date Posted: May 08, 2014 at 4:26 PM
Let me help you here.

There is no system that will speak with your factory remote start system however.... We can speak to your on-board CANbus network and control the same I/O's through data to remote start your vehicle. With that said you can also add a telematics device (Drone Mobile DR-3100) to this system and you'll have the following capabilities:

Standard way of auto starting your vehicle with your OEM key fob
New way of starting your vehicle by hitting lock x 3
Start the vehicle using dronemobile.com or from the application for a tablet or smart phone.

Easy. Don't think too hard about it. This will not effect your factory remote start what-so-ever.

you can find the remote start here

PM if you have any questions.

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Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: May 08, 2014 at 5:20 PM
Dball with rxt does speak with factory remote start over databus




Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: June 01, 2014 at 9:32 PM
Dball with rxt firmware paired with smartstart did exactly what he needed and worked great




Posted By: brewfixer
Date Posted: June 02, 2014 at 10:09 PM
pentavolvo wrote:

Dball with rxt firmware paired with smartstart did exactly what he needed and worked great


And thank you very much. My wife loves the mod however I should have thought that GPS option through carefully. Now she knows where I am at all the time. Go Figure...

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