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94 corolla, avital 4103l

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=136895
Printed Date: May 03, 2024 at 11:23 AM


Topic: 94 corolla, avital 4103l

Posted By: alexlewis
Subject: 94 corolla, avital 4103l
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 4:26 PM

I need help with my vital 4103L install on my 94 corolla. I hook all the wires up, even the tach wire but it won't start. I researched to see if I need any addition modules but everything said no, unless i missed something. What am I missing? It unlocks and locks, just won't start.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 4:45 PM
Immobiliser by-pass?
List what you've wired to where.

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Posted By: alexlewis
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM
Everything I looked up said this car doesn't need the bypass.

on the alarm:
main 9 pin harness i connected
Brown to the GREEN/ red horn
white to the RED / white lights

remote start 6 pin harness
2 red to white 12v
orange accessory to BLACK / YELLOW accessory
purple starter to BLACK/ white starter
pink ignition to BLACK/ orange ignition

satellite harness
nothing connected

remote start 5 pin harness
violet/white to tach at the coil
brown brake to GREEN / WHITE brake

door lock 3 pin harness
blue unlock to blue / YELLOW unlock
green lock to blue/white lock




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM
Try the R/S with the key in the ignition, how have you connected the wires, solder, T -taps?
Auto or manual transmission?
Where's your ground point and have you measured voltage between there and your inputs?
The R/S should click a number of times after a failed start, count the clicks.
Did you program tach?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM
And don't try to tell me you've done the programming, have you not connected door triggers on this unit?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM
Delete my last comment, you said ALARM and it isn't an alarm BUT, you've got a second ignition to connect up and yes for some reason I was thinking 04 not 94 so yes, no by-pass needed.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: alexlewis
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM
howie ll wrote:

Try the R/S with the key in the ignition, how have you connected the wires, solder, T -taps?
Auto or manual transmission?
Where's your ground point and have you measured voltage between there and your inputs?
The R/S should click a number of times after a failed start, count the clicks.
Did you program tach?


My bad, it's not an alarm just remote start and keyless entry.
solder the connections
auto transmission
the ground is screwed to the car. close to where there was a ground already. I did not measure the voltage between the ground and inputs.
Once I lock the doors and attempt the remote start, nothing happens. no clicks or anything. But when I try to unlock the doors, it clicks twice.
I followed the steps in the instructions on programming the tach. Turn the car on, press the valet button within 5 seconds for 3 seconds until the programming light turns solid then let go. once light turns off it is programmed.

Also I have the tach connected to the diagnose plug under the hood.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:34 PM
That's fine, test for the second ignition and wire it to your pink white.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: alexlewis
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 5:40 PM
howie ll wrote:

And don't try to tell me you've done the programming, have you not connected door triggers on this unit?


I have not connected door trigger because the unit dosent list a door triggers connect.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 6:00 PM
That's why I already posted about deleting the post.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM
Where did you connect the BLACK/ white netural safety wire ? It's in the same 5 pin connector as the tach and brake wires

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: alexlewis
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 8:43 PM
chev104275 wrote:

Where did you connect the BLACK/ white netural safety wire ? It's in the same 5 pin connector as the tach and brake wires



I didn't because my car diagram doesn't show I have something to connect it to unless I ground it.




Posted By: pentavolvo
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 8:53 PM
Yeah ground that wire and see if it starts




Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM
I haven't worked on that car in particular but if its an automatic it should have a neutral safety switch. If you get in the car put it in drive or reverse and try to start the car. It shouldn't try to crank over if it has a safety switch. Do this in an empty parking lot and be prepared to step on the brake if the car tries to move. If you have the switch then just ground that wire. That's most likely why the car isn't starting.

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: catback
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM
pentavolvo wrote:

Yeah ground that wire and see if it starts


chev104275 wrote:

....That's most likely why the car isn't starting.


I'm with these two...you should actually have a switch to put on that wire so you can disable the remote start. Also on the topic of safeties you should hook up the hood pin. That, the R/S disable switch, and the under-hood warning stickers are valuable protection and safety for whomever has to work under the hood of your car.




Posted By: alexlewis
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 9:27 PM
chev104275 wrote:

I haven't worked on that car in particular but if its an automatic it should have a neutral safety switch. If you get in the car put it in drive or reverse and try to start the car. It shouldn't try to crank over if it has a safety switch. Do this in an empty parking lot and be prepared to step on the brake if the car tries to move. If you have the switch then just ground that wire. That's most likely why the car isn't starting.


i had the car in reverse and drive and both times tried starting the car and it didn't start. So I grounded that wire and it still would not remote start.




Posted By: alexlewis
Date Posted: June 30, 2014 at 9:38 PM
catback wrote:

pentavolvo wrote:

Yeah ground that wire and see if it starts


chev104275 wrote:

....That's most likely why the car isn't starting.


I'm with these two...you should actually have a switch to put on that wire so you can disable the remote start. Also on the topic of safeties you should hook up the hood pin. That, the R/S disable switch, and the under-hood warning stickers are valuable protection and safety for whomever has to work under the hood of your car.



The unit did come with a separate switch that I connected to the BLACK/ white wire then I grounded the other end but still no start.




Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: July 01, 2014 at 5:01 AM
What does it do when you try to start it ?

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 01, 2014 at 11:08 AM
alexlewis wrote:

The unit did come with a separate switch that I connected to the BLACK/ white wire then I grounded the other end but still no start.


Ensure that switch is ON and the avital is seeing a ground on that BLACK/ white wire.

Should that fail you need to perform the shutdown diagnostics.





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