Printer Friendly Forum Posts - mazda 3 with dball2 and avital 4103 issue

I'm trying to install an Avital 4103 Remote Starter in a 2013 Mazda 3 (standard key, NOT smart key) and using a DBALL2 as the bypass/interface module in D2D mode.

The DBALL2 install instructions list two type of install; Type 1 for 2010-2013 and Type 2 for 2004-2009. The difference in the install types being mainly that Type doesn't interface to the CAN bus while Type 1 does.

The problem I'm encountering is that when I program the keys for the DBALL2, the behavior is that of the Type 2.

- Following the procedure I reset the DBALL2 and the LED comes on solid Red indicating that it's waiting for programming.
- I insert the first key (both keys are OEM), turn the ignition to the ON position. LED starts flashing green, wait until the security light goes out and remove the key
- Insert the second key, LED starts flashing Orange. Wait until the Security light goes out remove the key
- Apply 12V to the ignition line and instead of the LED starting to flash green, it flashes red 10 times.
- If I follow the Type 2 (non CAN bus) proceed and press the programming button 5 times, the DBALL2 finishes the programming

Using the Avital fob, the DBALL2 correctly interprets the signals over the D2D connection. Door lock/unlock works, but none of the the CAN bus features work.

The strange thing is, I had it programmed successfully one time. And then in trouble shooting another issue with the starter relay not energizing on the the Avital, I reset the DBALL2 and now can't get it to recognize the CAN bus again.

I have the TAN CAN-H wire connected (soldered) to the wire CAN-H wire at the OBD2 port and the TAN/BLACK CAN-L wire connected to the red CAN-L in the same place.

Anyone have any insights as what may be the problem?