viper 5706v ’06 chevy cobalt ss manual

I have been working 5 days all day trying to get this installed. I have done tons of research and have gotten pretty far in the installation. This is my first installation btw.

Viper 5706v + idatalink ads-alca connected W2W
I have connected what I think is everything that I need. Everything except siren and lights. I'm trying to remote start and during the MTS enabling as soon as I hit remote start on my fob it says "tenor start error" then nothing. What gives?

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On 5706v quick reference install guide...

6pin
1 - to constant 12v
2 - to chassis ground
3 - nc yet
4 - nc; also what is this?
5 - nc yet
6 - to GWR input blue/white idatalink(IDL)

3 pin
1 - to blue/black IDL
2 - NC
3 - to GREEN/ black IDL

10 PIN
1 - nc
2 - to ignition harness pin 4, acc
3 - nc
4 - nc
5 - to ignition harness pin 3, ign
6 - nc
7 - nc
8 - nc
9 - nc
10 - to ign harness pin 3, ign

24 pin

All nc unless specified

2 - connected to defogger relay switch
3 - to IDL RED / WHITE
4 - to relay switch
10 - to IDL yellow/red
12 - to IDL PURPLE / white
13 - to grounding relay triggered by e-brake
15 - to IDL yellow/black
16 - to horn relay switch
20 - to brake wire (energized when pressed, otherwise grounded)

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coyn11 wrote:

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I have been working 5 days all day trying to get this installed. I have done tons of research and have gotten pretty far in the installation. This is my first installation btw.

Viper 5706v + idatalink ads-alca connected W2W
I have connected what I think is everything that I need. Everything except siren and lights. I'm trying to remote start and during the MTS enabling as soon as I hit remote start on my fob it says "tenor start error" then nothing. What gives?

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"Remote start error"*

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6pin
1 - to constant 12v
2 - to chassis ground
3 - nc yet
4 - nc; also what is this?
5 - nc yet
6 - to GWR input blue/white idatalink(IDL)    This is GWA.  You want GWR connected to the bypass module.  Dark Blue (-) Status Output.

10 PIN
1 - nc
2 - to ignition harness pin 4, Goes to +12V
3 - nc
4 - nc
5 - to ignition harness pin 3, ign   Goes to +12V
6 - nc
7 - nc Starter
8 - nc ACC       to ign harness pin 4, Brown
9 - nc
10 - to ign harness pin 3, ign    Yellow

24 Pin add

Pin 5 Dark Blue (-) Status Output to IDL GWR Input

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Here is a really good wire guide listing with photo's : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=717

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kreg357 wrote:

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6pin
1 - to constant 12v
2 - to chassis ground
3 - nc yet
4 - nc; also what is this?
5 - nc yet
6 - to GWR input blue/white idatalink(IDL)    This is GWA.  You want GWR connected to the bypass module.  Dark Blue (-) Status Output.

10 PIN
1 - nc
2 - to ignition harness pin 4, Goes to +12V
3 - nc
4 - nc
5 - to ignition harness pin 3, ign Goes to +12V
6 - nc
7 - nc Starter
8 - nc ACC    to ign harness pin 4, Brown
9 - nc
10 - to ign harness pin 3, ign  Â  Yellow

24 Pin add

Pin 5 Dark Blue (-) Status Output to IDL GWR Input

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Thank you so much for your reply! I made all the changes and read through the wiring guide for an 05. I have the service manuals for 06 so I am certain where my wires are. After the changes I am still getting "remote start error" and no clicks (no flashing lights) when I try to do the manual mode exit procedure. Tomorrow I'm going to install the siren and set it to automatic temporarily to see if I can get it to remote start. However, is there any info you need to correctly diagnose as to why I'm getting an error message?
Thanks again!

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Next things to check :

Is the IDL ADS AL-CA flashed with the correct firmware?  Should be  ADS-AL(DL)-GM2.

Did you set the IDL Installation Mode to Standard ( W2W ), two blinks and lock it in?

Did the IDL program properly to the car?

Are you running the Viper in Tach Mode?  And did you do a successful Tach Learn?

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kreg357 wrote:

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Next things to check :

Is the IDL ADS AL-CA flashed with the correct firmware?  Should be  ADS-AL(DL)-GM2.

FLASHED WITH CORRECT FIRMWARE

Did you set the IDL Installation Mode to Standard ( W2W ), two blinks and lock it in?

TWO BLINKS

Did the IDL program properly to the car?

IF THIS IS THE "OPEN THE DOOR, INSERT KEY FOR 3 SEC, TURN KEY ONE POSITION FOR 3 SEC, turn again for 3, and start for 3 then wait. Then yes. However it didn't do anything here. But I'll give it another go. However if my for locks and trunk work, do I need to do this?

Are you running the Viper in Tach Mode?  And did you do a successful Tach Learn?

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TACH WIRE TO BYPASS AND LEARNED. (ONE FLASH)

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At Step 6, did the IDL LED go Green for 2 seconds?  You must hold the key in START for at least 3 seconds while it learns the Passlock2 signal.

You might try the Viper Shutdown Diagnostics to check for the error code.

Think I would set the Viper Parking Light jumper/fuse to (-) and connect the H1/5 White wire to this vehcile wire :
PARKING LIGHTS ( - )       BROWN / WHITE (-)   @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH or BCM, GRAY 72-PIN PLUG(X2), PIN 5.

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Good and bad news, I set the car in automatic mode and (while pressing down the clutch) got the car to remote start.
I know I need to bypass the clutch with a relay, I just haven't gotten around to that. I am getting 7 flashes when I do the shut down diag. following trying to set the car in manual mode and trying to do the exit procedure to remote start. I've read a lot of people having this issue just set the car in auto (even though they have a manual). But I don't see anyone actually solving this issue. And I don't want to set it to auto and one day accedently run over someone's kid.

BTW thank you for all your help so far!

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Here is the process for entering MTS Reservation Mode from a Viper 4704 guide.:
Manual Transmission Start (MTS mode)
When installed into a manual transmission vehicle, the system requires
that the MTS mode is properly set when parking. If MTS mode is not
properly set or is defeated after being properly set the system will not
start the engine and the REMOTE START ERROR text and tones play as
an alert.
1. With the engine running, set the parking brake and leave the
engine running. For Pit Stop or Turbo Timer mode (to leave the
engine running after Locking) open the driver door.
2. Release the foot brake (if pressed during Step 1), or press and
release the foot brake anytime. As long as the engine is running
there is no time limit to perform this step.
3. Within 20 seconds of foot brake release, press any command
button on the remote, after 20 seconds return to Step 2 (For Turbo
Timer Mode, press the optional dash mounted activation button
or send the Timer Mode command from the Advanced Start menu
screen).
4. The parking lights flash 5 times to confirm MTS mode enable
and the remote start activates the ignition outputs. The
REMOTE START ON text and beeps play to confirm.
5. Turn Off and remove the key from the ignition switch, the engine
remains running.
6. Exit the vehicle, close all the doors and Lock the system.
7. The engine turns off and after a few seconds, the REMOTE START OFF
message plays to confirm. If the door is opened in Step 3 then
the engine continues to run.

The Viper needs to see Ignition1 at +12V, a valid Tach signal, the E-Brake signal, the Door Status signal and the Foot Brake
signal.  The Igntion1 should be OK because you can remote start the vehicle in Auto Trans Mode with the clutch depressed.
The Tach signal is OK because you got a good status from a Tach Learn.  You can test the Brake signal by doing a Auto
Trans remote start-up and then shutting down the engine by depressing the Brake pedal.  You can test the Door Trigger
by setting the Viper Alarm and then opening the drivers door with the inside handle.  That leaves the E-Brake signal to test.

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ok, so i accedentally tapped into the wrong wire for my ebrake. i tapped into the correct one and now this is where i am.

when i go to do the vehicle exit procedure i before hand i...
1. turn on the vehicle
2. release the parking brake

then i do the vehicle exit porocedure
1. press and hold on foot brake.
2. engage ebrake
3. release foot brake
4. within seconds i press the remote start button on the remote
5. turn key off and remove it from ignition
6. open door
7. shut door
8. press lock on the remote

then the car shuts down and flashes 6 times. the funny part is i dont have the hood pin wire attached to anything, the end of the wire is sitting on the carpet mat (which means its not being grounded)
here is another really funny thing, when i actually get out of the car between steps 6 and 7 i tried popping the hood to see if i had a positive hood switch. i didn't see any pins or mercury switches so i armed the vehicle remotely shuting it off and engaging the MT mode. At this point the car shut down then the alarm started going off.

so the issue now: although i get the reservation mode to activate (and i get the messages and joystick on my LCD remote) immediatly after reservation mode is set i get 6 flashes and when i try to remote start the vehicle (with clutch depressed) the vehicle flashes 7 times.

and btw the door triggers the alarm when opened from the inside and armed.


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for clarification...

the ONLY way i can get a successful reservation mode is if i open the hood before i shut it down. then i try and remote start and it attempts to start (although i dont know if it will cause i cant press the clutch outside of the vehicle) and the horn starts going off.

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UPDATE: The alarm has nothing to do with the hood being open or closed. and i miscounted to "6" flashes. its 7 flashes. when im inside the vehicle and it is successful outside the vehicle, but my FACTORY ALARM goes off after i try to remote start.
im thinking the bypass module hasn't properly programmed my transponder key? but then why could i start in automatic mode?

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UPDATE 2: the remote start works when clutch is bypassed. the factory horn alarm goes off now until the car is completely started then it turns off and everything is normal. so it works, but the alarm goes off for a few seconds. Do i need to add diodes? if so where and what ratings?

Thanks in advanced!



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Remember that really nice wire listing I linked to earlier ( https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=717 ) ? 

For the Factory Alarm honks after a remote start,  take a look at page 17.  

Clutch bypass???  Take a look at page 12. 

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Everything works except that horn. I will be putting in the horn relay tomorrow. Thank you so much for all the help!

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