’14 audi a6 tdi remote start needed

Need install info for a Viper remote start on a 2014 Audi A6 TDI. Is there any install info available for these cars? I'm an experienced mechanic and from what I hear the install is not that complicated. Is there access to their tech line/site ?

buy an idatalink ads-al-ca flash it with DLVW6 DBI-2way

https://cdncontent2.idatalink.com/corporate/Content/Manuals/DL-VW6/DBI-AL(DL)-VW6-EN_20141020.pdf

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

tedmond wrote:

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buy an idatalink ads-al-ca flash it with DLVW6 DBI-2way

https://cdncontent2.idatalink.com/corporate/Content/Manuals/DL-VW6/DBI-AL(DL)-VW6-EN_20141020.pdf

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Is that all I need, so you don't recommend the Viper systems? We really don't need most of the features but would like some decent range, nice not to have an extra remote too.

the idatalink piece must be flashed for the vehicle you'll be using it with.
you have 3 options here.

1) install a complete viper system + use idatalink ads-al-ca

2) install an idatalink ads-al-ca with an XL202 rf extender and buy the remote/antenna kit. I say go with a Compustar FT-D100 + RF-P2W901SS

3) install idatalink ads-al-ca as a standalone starter and use the factory key (lock 3x) to start.

Now speaking from experience, option 3 is the easiest and most cost effective to get a starter in. option 2 is going to cost more if you stay with viper than option 1, due to the fact you will need a flashlink usb and xk loader2. The install would be much cleaner and less "bulky." if you went with the compustar/idatalink combo you only need to purchase the ads-usb flashlink.
On top of that the compustar or viper will give you the greatest amount of range possible up to a mile (depending on model)

since you're about the range, option 2 seems to be best suited for your needs. research which range of remote works do you. most range from1000ft-3000ft, higher ends go from 3000ft-6000ft 1mile

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

You can use a DB-ALL2 as well not to disagree with young Ted but that's all we get in Europe and it works fine.
Just used one a Skoda (Golf V) and it worked fine.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

howie ll wrote:

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You can use a DB-ALL2 as well not to disagree with young Ted but that's all we get in Europe and it works fine.
Just used one a Skoda (Golf V) and it worked fine.

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Have you heard of this? Found it in a review on Amazon:

"Now it appears Xpresskits no longer wants these to use the factory remote for 3X starting. When you go to the website for firmware programming you encounter this message.

3X Lock Start Feature

As of October 1st 2014, RSR firmware no longer supports the 3X Lock Start feature using your factory remote. However, it will remain supported on the Directed Digital Solutions (4X10/5X10), which offer better coverage. DBALL and DBALL2 will continue to support RSR and RXT functionalities through Directed RF kits and SmartStart, but will no longer offer 3X Lock Start capability.

If you need to service your installation, please refer to Technical bulletin 116."

Yes they don't support it anymore.
BTW, you'll still need a key in a box, e.g. 556U, Euro vehicles have an extra level of security.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

+1 the dball2 will work as well. I haven't used a dball in some time, let alone touch the new version. I hope they are better now than they used to be.

howard, i thought fortin had a branch in russia that distributes for that side of the country no?

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

They don't reach west. One of the UK companies would bring in a batch of EVO-ALL and my colleague and I would grab them., No support for any vehicle, e.g. BMW 7 Series not sold in Canada.
DEI own a company Falcon Electronics in Romania, supposedly does all the code reads and software for Euro vehicles. I don't even want to tell you our horror stories.
Did a Skoda today, DB-ALL wouldn't give parking brake.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Let's say I figured out what unit, if any, and which module I would be using, are there any resources for install info/directions? If not then the hardware is unimportant. I have the know how and the tools, and from what I have learned so far, it's not that complicated but I still need to know ahead of time what exactly is involved before I purchase anything. I know that the installers have a site and a tech. line that they utilize for instructions or problems. Maybe it's best left to a pro...also, what's the most time consuming part of the job, why would it take 2-3 hrs. to tap into the 2 can wires and do a key wrap(?) and program the remotes?? The most important thing I was looking forward to was the beers that I would have after testing it for the first time (whether it worked or not)...

The installation guide is on the Xpresskit site, probably also on Fortin and idatalink when you specify your vehicle make and model.
If you're as good as you claim to be that's all you'll need.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

howie ll wrote:

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The installation guide is on the Xpresskit site, probably also on Fortin and idatalink when you specify your vehicle make and model.
If you're as good as you claim to be that's all you'll need.

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Looks like wiring diagrams to me, not instructions. I can read the diagram but it means nothing if not coupled with vehicle install info. Why, how good did I claim to be?? Just need install help with this particular vehicle. I can cut, strip, solder (took a class in soldering missle wire harnesses), shrink wrap, route, and whatever else with the best of them. Was an Aircraft mechanic, Auto/Truck, Snowmobile mechanic with a total of 44yrs experience. I just can't do my first remote start install on a 60k vehicle with just a wiring diagram. If there is no info out there so be it, I'll pay the $569. they want to install it...

OK If you need install instructions please don't do this yourself otherwise T20 and possibly T25 Torx, 8 and 10 mm sockets wire strip and solder tools as basics.
No one is going to lead you by the hand and say "undo this, go there".

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Wiring guides are detailed enough, where it's an installation guide in itself. Of course you have to use some hand tools to pull it all apart, however as mentioned the diagram/install guide is pretty much all you need.



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Tools are not the problem. I know that Crutchfield offers vehicle specific directions if you purchase from them, any way to access them? Their prices are terrible, $70. less than having it installed. I can get the Viper 5706V & the module for around $250. or less, my installer (the only one close to me)wants $569. I know that it's a late model car but the instructions must be floating around somewhere.

the guide you will find on idatalink IS vehicle specific. That is a wiring guide as comes as detailed as you will find anywhere. If that doesn't help, you're honestly better off paying to get it installed.

Do keep in mind, there probably isn't going to be a true pictorial/ exact vehicle guide. The way the team at ADS, Fortin, even Directed prints the guides in which the wiring will incorporate into your install. They expect the end user to have some common sense/basic know how in order to FOLLOW their instructions, and install the unit.

For sure the wiring is very simple on paper (under 10 connections) but the labour rate is ridiculous. Why? You're not paying an installer for his "time." You're essentially paying him/her for their workmanship, knowledge, know how in order to get such a sophisticated system installed PROPERLY. Medical example: You don't find the best bang for the buck doctor, you find one that knows what they are doing because they are qualified to do such. Now with that being said, I'm not here to give you a forum bashing or flaming. We're all here to help, but the questions you ask; forces us installers to believe you don't have the BASIC knowledge to start this project. Having tool and mechanical know how is great, but electrical is quite a large/vast ranging as well.

Anywhos, buy what you feel comfortable working with, and I'm sure members will chime in on the subject to help you complete the job.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Ted, as I mentioned to you I do about one VAG* a week.
To the OP follow the guide and by the way our labour rate on these is about US$240.
You need to drop the panel on theright LEFT under the instruments.
Everything is there,
The hard parts are:-
1) Getting "A" pillar trim back, lots of patience required.
2) Finding your way into the engine bay, I suggest easier on left hand drive than ours, PS mount siren to inner bulkhead in engine bay, remove plastic scuttle around wiper blades. On right hand drive cars there's am grommet behind the servo.
*VAG =Volkswagen, Audi, Seat Skoda, electrically they're all the same.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

I just looked at Xpresskit, dead easy wiring, only about 10 connections MUST solder your joints.
Pay careful attention to the transponder reader you have to remove head unit to get at it. Stop/start button is easy.
Don't kill yourself trying to get at the kickpanel, ANY twisted pair of the same colour CAN wires will do, ignition loom, to CPUs under dash, I've never gone to the kick panel.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Thanks, I do have the electrical knowledge, been soldering wires since I was a kid. I ripped out and replaced and fabricated my own wiring harnesses many times, that's not the help I need. The old saying "If all else fails, read the directions". Those are the directions that I need, yes they are "remove this", "tape this to that", "find a good place for this", open this and look for", don't do this, or that". Maybe they just don't exist and on a first time install it may be better for a pro to handle it. I'll have the product/s warranty and the installers guarantee too if anything goes wrong. I thought there might be a video tutorial or written "step-by-step" instructions. Thanks for all the input anyway. Found a great one for an '05 Tacoma while I was searching if anybody needs it:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/audio-video/252032-how-install-viper-5704-alarm-remote-start.html

Stop right there. When I teach I explain what I want and let them get started watching what they do.
I expect questions but they have to do it themselves.
Please read the last phrase, first sentence of my signature line.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

spoon fed guides do exist (such as the12volt pictorials), but you would have to dig around for your specific vehicle.
Wouldn't hurt if you did the install and made your own pictorial. No such thing as a step by step for every vehicle out there. Happy hunting.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert