2012 honda civic compustar cs800-s + blade

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Topic: 2012 honda civic compustar cs800-s + blade

Posted By: misturnice
Subject: 2012 honda civic compustar cs800-s + blade
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 12:24 PM

Starting my second install, on a 2012 Honda Civic LX (Auto). Friend already has a Compustar CS800-S and I'm looking for a bypass.

My first install was with a DEI product utilizing DBALL2, so I need a different bypass atm.

Since it's a Compustar system, with the research I've tried to do, it seems that the idatalink BLADE AL bypass is the easiest/cleanest option?

So a few questions, if I purchase the idatalink BLADE, I would need the idatalink connector (to program the Blade)- Autopage ADSUSB, would the DL-HA3 be the correct flash? Since the BLADE plugs into the remote start, would it be considered D2D connections (internally)

Also, the connections I would need to make is

Lock
Unlock

Ignition (+)
CANL
CANH
Key data

along with

Parking Lights (-) and Rearm (Auto Lights), Starter, Accessory 1, Accessory 2, +12V, Ignition and Ground.

Am I missing anything?

Also is there any other bypass that would be easier/better for this application?

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misturnice

Replies:

Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 5:55 PM

While the CS800-S R/S w/Keyless entry system is made by Compustar, it is their entry level system and does not have a Blade
docking port. It can go D2D with the iDatalink ADS AL-CA bypass module. If you wanted a Blade compatible unit, look at the
CM7200-s or the older CM6200-s. You will need an ADS USB cable and Flash site access to load the firmware and configure the
options.

The iDatalink install guide does not show all the required R/S connections. You still need to connect all the ignition circuits,
IGN1, Starter1, ACC1 & ACC2. I recently installed a system on a 2013 Civic using the ADS AL-CA module w/ADS AL(DL) HA3
firmware ( 2012 through 2015 are the same ). Went very smoothly but that is S.O.P. for iDatalink modules. posted_image

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Soldering is fun!

Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 7:17 PM

For a 2012, using an idatalink alca won't save you a significant amount of time. Personally, for any 06-2013 I hardwire + honda-sl3 for the bypass portion. The only benefit you get from the alca is the tach. Tach is easily accessible in the engine bay.

LX has no factory alarm, and you still to have to make 2 connections for the door locks in the kick. Might as well skip the alca, hardwire the locks from the starter and run a tach.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Posted By: misturnice
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 8:03 PM

CN1 Main Harness
1     Red (+) 12V Constant   (+) +12 V, White Pin 1
2     GREEN / WHITE (+) Parking Light Output     NOT USED
3     RED / White (+) 12V Constant   (+) +12 V, White Pin 1
4     White (+) Accessory        (+) Accessory 1, Orange Pin 2
5     Blue (+) Selectable by jumper*** (+) Accessory 2, Red pin 3
6     Yellow (+) 12V Starter   (+) Starter, Yellow, pin 5
7     Green (+) 12V Ignition   (+) Ignition, Blue, pin 2
8     Black (-) Ground        Ground
***Change Jumper to Accessory***
CN2
1     GREEN / WHITE (-) Parking Light Output     (-) Parking Lights: White Connector Gray, pin 8
2     RED / Black (-) Starter Output   --wire to bypass (relay for +) Starter Output???
3     WHITE/ Black (-) 2nd Accessory Output     not used???
4     Black (-) Status Output (POC #1) Ground
5     Orange (-) Rearm Output (POC #2) (-) Parking Lights: White Connector Gray, pin 8
6     ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3)     --wire to Bypass (Brown) Disarm Input
7     White (-) Horn Output (POC#4) **where is the horn wire?
8     Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input --wire to Bypass Hood Status (-) Input
9     Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input     --wire to Bypass Brake Status (-) Input
10     RED / White (-) Trigger Start Input not used??
11     Red (+) Trigger Start Input   not used???
12     Yellow/Black (+) Tach/Alt Sense Input     --wire to Bypass TACH (AC) Input
CN3 – Lock Connector
1     None (+12V) Constant
2     Violet/White (-) Trunk Release --wire to Bypass Trunk (-) Output
3     ORANGE / Black (-) Driver’s Priority Unlock     ??? Where do I connect this??
4     Blue (-) Unlock Output   --wire to Bypass Unlock (-)
5     Blue/Black (-) Lock Output   --wire to Bypass Lock (-)
6     None (-) Ground
CN4 – 4-Pin (RS232 Port)
Does this come with the remote start or the bypass? Or is this a separate purchase?

Idatalink ADS-ACLA Bypass ADS-AL(DL)-HA3-EN

D2D Cable – Does this come with the remote start of the bypass? Or is this a separate purchase?
IF D2D is available // is covered by D2D (1-way remote start)

Blue/White - GWR (-) Input   //Ground (Auto Transmission)
Black – Ground //Ground
Red – 12V (+) //12V (+)

GREEN/ Black - Lock/Arm (-) Input //RS      CN3 Blue/Black (-) Lock Output
Blue/Black – Unlock (-) Input   //RS     CN3 Blue (-) Unlock Output
RED / White – Trunk (-) Input   //RS     CN3 Violet/White (-) Trunk Release
Brown – Disarm (-) Input   //RS      CN2 ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3)
PURPLE / Black – Ground (-) Input   Ground (to enable Auto Relock after Start)
BLACK/ White – Starter (+) Input   //RS     CN2 RED / Black Starter (-) >> Relay for (+)
Green – E-Brake Status (-) Output           What do I connect this to?
PURPLE / White – Tach (AC) Output CN2 Yellow/Black Tach/Alt sense Input

WHITE/ Black Bypass – GREEN/ Red – Door Lock
WHITE/ Red – Unlock (-)        (-)Unlock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Grey, Pin 18
White – Lock (-) (-)Lock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Blue, Pin 11

Yellow/Black – Door Status (-) Output Remote Start does not have this? – not connected?
Yellow/Red – Trunk Status (-) Output Remote Start does not have this? – not connected?
Yellow – Hood Status (-) Output   Remote Start - Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input
BROWN / Red – CANH        7-pin immobilizer connector – Pink, Pin 4
BROWN / Yellow – CANL        7-pin immobilizer connector – Blue, Pin 3
ORANGE / Black – Key Data   7-pin immobilizer connector – Lt. Green, Pin 6
Pink – Ignition (+) Input        7-pin immobilizer connector – Color?, Pin 2
GREEN/ Red – Door Lock        Bypass – WHITE/ Black
Gray/Red – Brake Status (+) Output CN2 Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input

Is this all I need for W2W connections? Am I missing any connections? And is there any D2D cable that comes with either the bypass or remote start?

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misturnice

Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 9:04 PM

The ADS AL-CA bypass module will include the D2D harness. While I have never tried it, the CS800-s is supposedly capable
of 2-way D2D communication with the iDatalink bypass module. If you go D2D, there are no connections between the R/S and
the bypass module other than the D2D harness.

If you go W2W there are a few corrections to your chart.

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Soldering is fun!

Posted By: misturnice
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 9:06 PM

Can you provide me with the W2W corrections, just so I can have a back up in the event that the D2D does not work.

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misturnice

Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 9:45 PM

CN2
1     GREEN / WHITE (-) Parking Light Output     (-) Parking Lights: White Connector, Gray, pin 8
2     RED / Black (-) Starter Output      not used
3     WHITE/ Black (-) 2nd Accessory Output not used
4     Black (-) Status Output (POC #1)           to ADS Blue/White GWR
5     Orange (-) Rearm Output (POC #2)       not used
6     ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3)       wire to Bypass (Brown) Disarm Input
7     White (-) Horn Output (POC#4) orange (or pink) (-)   @ horn switch in steering column
8     Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input    wire to Bypass Hood Status (-) Output
9     Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input    wire to Bypass Brake Status (+) Output
10     RED / White (-) Trigger Start Input          not used
11     Red (+) Trigger Start Input      not used
12     Yellow/Black (+) Tach/Alt Sense Input wire to Bypass TACH (AC) Input
CN3 – Lock Connector
1     None (+12V) Constant
2     Violet/White (-) Trunk Release wire to Bypass Trunk Release (-) Output
3     ORANGE / Black (-) Driver’s Priority Unlock not used
4     Blue (-) Unlock Output wire to Bypass Unlock (-)
5     Blue/Black (-) Lock Output        wire to Bypass Lock (-)
6     None (-) Ground

ADS AL-CA
Blue/White - GWR (-) Input //RS Black (-) Status Output
Black – Ground //Ground
Red – 12V (+) //12V (+)

GREEN/ Black - Lock/Arm (-) Input              //RS      CN3 Blue/Black (-) Lock Output
Blue/Black – Unlock (-) Input        //RS     CN3 Blue (-) Unlock Output
RED / White – Trunk (-) Input          //RS     CN3 Violet/White (-) Trunk Release
Brown – Disarm (-) Input //RS      CN2 ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3)
PURPLE / Black – Ground (-) Input Ground (to enable Auto Relock after Start)
BLACK/ White – Starter (+) Input     //RS     CN1/6 Yellow
Green – E-Brake Status (-) Output Not Used
PURPLE / White – Tach (AC) Output //RS      CN2 Yellow/Black Tach/Alt sense Input

WHITE/ Black Bypass – GREEN/ Red – Door Lock
WHITE/ Red – Unlock (-) //Civic (-)Unlock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Grey, Pin 18
White – Lock (-) //Civic (-)Lock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Blue, Pin 11 *** This wire will be thinner gauge than Unlock wire, must test.

Yellow/Black – Door Status (-) Output          not connected
Yellow/Red – Trunk Status (-) Output not connected
Yellow – Hood Status (-) Output       Remote Start - Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input   ** Only if Civic has factory hood pin.
BROWN / Red – CANH //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Pink, Pin 4
BROWN / Yellow – CANL          //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Blue, Pin 3
ORANGE / Black – Key Data     //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Lt. Green, Pin 6
Pink – Ignition (+) Input         //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Yellow, Pin 2
GREEN/ Red – Door Lock        Bypass – WHITE/ Black
Gray/Red – Brake Status (+) Output             //RS CN2 Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input

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Soldering is fun!

Posted By: misturnice
Date Posted: February 01, 2015 at 9:48 PM

Great Thanks! Starting to get the hang of it

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misturnice

Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 02, 2015 at 7:55 AM

d2d on the cs800s works fine. I would do a software update though.

Secondly, the unit comes defaulted for voltage sense which does not work on your vehicle. Switch it to tach and program.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert