Firstech CM7200, Issues with Reservation Mode

I have a manual transmission 2004 Pontiac GTO that I am installing a Firstech CM7200 remote starter on with compustar remotes. I got the system pretty much finished, just waiting on a spare key to be made to use with the bypass module I have ready to use with it, it is not currently connected or plugged in at all). Everything works as advertised with the system for the most part. Doors lock and unlock, trunk releases, lights flash as they should, etc, the only issue I am running into right now is when I'm testing the reservation mode (yes I know it will not START without the module setup) the car stays running once the e-brake is set and I remove pressure from the brake pedel with the car in neutral and key removed. However, once I exit the car and close the door the car continues to run (the system is set to shut the car off immediately once all doors are closed not for 10 secs after, even so it still runs way pass 10 sec after). I have checked and double checked my door triggers, they are functioning properly and are (-) polarity and so is the input for the door zone trigger of the remote start system. Being that I have to use a "key in the box" style bypass setup, could this be the reason the car is still running after I exit and close the door. Being that the door triggers are working I'm assuming the only other thing it could be is that it is some sort of key sense issue. I was thinking that with the key physically in the ignition and removing it that it would recognize that, but being that the bypass is needed, could it be that the system is never recognizing a key in the first place or the removal of the key since it is not by way of the bypass?

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GoatGotYourTongue?

the system only shuts once it sees a door open/close.

1) did you leave the green loop intact?
2) is a tach connection done/programmed
3) once the last door is closed, press lock on your remote and see if it shutsdown.

btw after setting reservation, you are turning the ignition off right?

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

The green loop has been left connected, I have done the tach learning sequences and got confirmation flashes (I connected an injector). If I press the lock or the normal autostart button on my 4 button 2-way remote, yes the car does then shutoff. I am taking the key completely out of the ignition after I have turned it off. I've been trying it a few times today and now I've notice it will shut off approximately 2 -3 secs after I initially open the door to get out instead of closing the door. IF I don't open any doors and just sit in the car with the key removed it will continue to run until I key a button on the remote or cancel reservation mode or open the door. Could this possibly mean the polarity or the door trigger input on the module is incorrect?

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GoatGotYourTongue?

With the compustar 7200 brain in a manual vehicle, you need to have a das sensor connected. If you bought the 7000-as (blue box) it should have come with it. If you purchased the 7000-s (orangish box) it does not include this sensor. If you do not have that sensor it will not work properly. I have verified this on multiple cars.

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dasbogie wrote:

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With the compustar 7200 brain in a manual vehicle, you need to have a das sensor connected. If you bought the 7000-as (blue box) it should have come with it. If you purchased the 7000-s (orangish box) it does not include this sensor. If you do not have that sensor it will not work properly. I have verified this on multiple cars.

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Correct you need the FT-DAS for manual transmission, but it wont affect the car from shutting down. During start activation you get the Err-09 (DAS) if its not connected.

if the reservation mode sets successfully when you lock, its most likely due to you tapping into the dome light wire. the dome light wire shuts off when the vehicle locks.
You can verify by sitting inside the vehicle. - btw i have always done option 1-06 F03 or F04 only.

Be sure to buy the FT-DAS

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Rights have already purchased the FT-DAS as well and my thinking was like yours that it should not affect the reservation mode operation. Idk, it's really weird. The lst two times I tried just a few minutes ago the car did not shut off when I opened the door or closed it like it was a the few times before. It's almost like its flip flopping between them. I will check into the light thing. The only connection for light however are the parking lights. The module comes with a two parking light connections. One in the main high current ignition harness (CN1 and its +, I HAD it connected to the parking light connection on the fuse block right under the driver dash but it is currently disconnected so maybe somehow that's affecting. The parking light flash as they should in conjunction with all remote features as is with this line disconnected but I will connect it back and try momentarily) and then a (-) output connection on the CN5 connector which I have spliced directly into the parking light switch.

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GoatGotYourTongue?

Yea, now it's back to not shutting off at all unless I hit lock and I sat inside the car and noticed my dome light did not even come on when I removed the key from the ignition will attempting reservation mode nor does it come on when shutting th car down normally. Only when opening the door does the light come on.

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GoatGotYourTongue?

ok so what's happening is the door trigger input is actually onnected your domelight wire, instead of the door pins. Dome light comes on when you open the door, turns off during lock (vehicle function). the second the dome light shuts off reservation mode is complete

Unlock your car with the compustar, then do a status inquiry on your remote (button 4) if it shows doors are open do the following:

3-03 F02

It no door is open: 1-06 F01



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

After looking over the wiring diagram you are definitely right. The driver door trigger is also the dome light supervision. However you said do 1-06 F1, but that is supposed to be the default setting so shouldn't it be doing that anyway. I mean I will try to reset it to make sure that is selected anyway just to make sure.

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GoatGotYourTongue?

Btw I didn't get a door open error just a reservation off error when doing the system status.

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GoatGotYourTongue?

set both:
3-03 F02 dome light delay
1-06 i would suggest F01 or manually lock the car with the remote F04

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Hey btw I appreciate all the help. I have another question to shoot your way. The 2 parking light connections I mentioned in an earlier post the (+) 12V Selectable by Jumper (Default Parking Light) on CN1 and the (-250mA) Light OUT on CN5. What's the difference between the two and do they both need to be connected because at the moment I only have the CN5 connected and my lights seem to work as advertised.

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GoatGotYourTongue?

CN1 is positive high current application
CN5 is negative low current application

use one or the other.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Once again I'm calling on your wisdom to try and solve this reservation mode thing, I'm going to run through everything that's happens. First off like I said in previous post. I have done the tach learning successfully, I have my FT-DAS connected now and everything else. I am using a relay tied into my key fob for my bypass, not that it matters at this point since I can't even get to the part to try and autostart it lol. I start the car, everything is normal, put it in neutral, pull the e-brake and remove my foot from the brake (at this point I can hear my relay click so I know reservation mode is arming. I turn the ignition to off and remove my key (engine still running). I open the door and my dome light comes on when I open it. I close the door, dome light seems to go out as soon as the door closes from the times I remember. However the car doesn't shut right down, but instead does like 6-7 mins after the door was closes (I'm assuming this is a default thing so the car doesn't run too long if you have started but not completed reservation mode). Once the car shuts off and I believe the lights flash twice, the dome light comes on immediately when the car cuts off and goes out about 15-20 later (estimating). The doors never lock ( I believe that by default the are supposed to lock before reservation mode is complete, and usually if I have my parking light switch on auto, they also remain on even after the dome light comes on and goes out). upon holding the start key on the remote for auto start, it flashes red 3 times and the parking lights give me the 7 flashes for reservation mode not being set. Idk what else to try, I've been trying several different option settings but none seem to work, I apologize for continuing to bug you with this, but like I said everything else is working with the system and I think you were right about the door and dome light having something to do with it, just trying to figure out what the prob is. I will try to video it and post later if it continues and no solution comes up.

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GoatGotYourTongue?