Giordon g686sp remote start 05 Toyota Matrix
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=138579
Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 9:00 AM
Topic: Giordon g686sp remote start 05 Toyota Matrix
Posted By: scoobz
Subject: Giordon g686sp remote start 05 Toyota Matrix
Date Posted: March 01, 2015 at 7:04 PM
I have installed the keyless entry and alarm which both work, but the remote start continues to baffle me. I've Googled like crazy and have found a few posts to help, but haven't found a definitive answer. I've tried a few different wiring expirements, but still won't work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 01, 2015 at 9:59 PM
What does the unit do exactly?
Over crank, doesn't crank, doesn't attempt to start, start error codes?
Need more information
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 02, 2015 at 1:50 AM
I think you'll be wasting your time, never known one to actually work.
Is there a bypass involved/needed for that vehicle?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: scoobz
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 9:34 PM
It doesn't do anything. The relays just tic when I try it. And no there's no bypass that I know of.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 9:48 PM
You might have a transponder chipped key and need a bypass module. Toyota started using them in the 2005 Matrix. Try this test :
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=134973 ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: scoobz
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 10:12 PM
Tried the test. The car would crank but now start. I'm guessing that means I need a bypass module.
Posted By: scoobz
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 10:21 PM
Just to be clear though it doesn't even crank with the remote start
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 06, 2015 at 3:06 AM
You could have more than one issue. Place the ignition key fully into the ignition switch but do not turn it ( to ACC or ON ). Then try a remote start.
It would definitely help other forum members if you could post a link to the Giordon G686SP Install Manual ( or upload it to the Downloads section ) and list all of your current wiring connections. While the Matrix is fairly common, the Giordon R/S is rarely seen / used in these parts.
For the needed bypass module, look at something like the XpressKit PKALL or Fortin Key-Override-All. Here is a link to the PKALL install guide : https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6231&productid=196&firmwareid=1636 ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 07, 2015 at 5:56 PM
if it doesn't attempt to crank at all, you missed the ignition 2 wire.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: scoobz
Date Posted: April 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM
Thanks for the help, it's been a minute since I've had time to mess with it.
The alarm directions don't tell me which wire to connect to the 2nd ignition.
Alarm wires Car wires
12 pin
Negative black Grounded
Negative gate blue trunk blue/white
startup detection purple to what i believe is the tach BLACK/ white
(manual states to engine oil sensing on instrument panel, but everything I've read states connect to tach)
positive red positive 12volt
pedal detection orange brake GREEN / WHITE
on detection white BLACK/ white (1st ignition)
(manual states: to on lock cylinder when key is turned on, voltage is + 12volts)
4 pin module
starter wire blue red
to cylinder on white BLACK/ white (1st ignition)
(manual states:to on lock cylinder when key is turned on, voltage is + 12volts)
accessory green blue/red
RED / black BLACK/ white (1st ignition)
(manual states: to lock cylinder on)
I have a black\yellow wire which is the second ignition but not sure which to connect. I also have a blue/black which is not used that is the key sense
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM
What you are looking for is a wire marked 2nd. ignition on the Giordon, either marked POS or NEG output before we can go to the next level.
OR, take your ignition output from the Giordon, divide it to two standard automotive relays terminal 86. Then 15 amps fused constant to each at 87, ground 85 and 30 to each ignition wire.
Out of interest, if the engine speed sensor for the Giordan is marked "oil pressure switch", I'd dump it now before it wrecks your engine.
No professional would touch one of these.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: scoobz
Date Posted: April 29, 2015 at 6:37 PM
That's the problem, the wires aren't labeled. Just the directions stating to connect to lock cylinder on. And as for dividing wires, I have no idea what any of that means. I'm usually pretty good at stuff like this, but this time I'm dumbfounded.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 30, 2015 at 2:12 AM
If there are any diagrams please post. If you don't understand what I meant by divide, give up you shouldn't be doing this.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
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