Compustar Reservation Mode Not Working

Hi Everyone

Last July 2014 I bought a Compustar FT-7000AS-Cont, PRO 2-WAY 901 + FT-EZGO + OP500 on Ebay USA and have it installed professionally here in the Philippines for my 1990 Toyota Corolla Wagon (Manual Transmission).

Just to give you a history, unfortunately for me there are no authorized dealer accredited here in the Philippines but I have it installed by a professional car alarm installer but due to advance technology of the module they can't make my remote start work but everything else work like the lock and unlock features and stuff.

After a week I have it check by another professional car alarm installer and they told me that the CN1-4 (Default Accessory) and CN1-5 (Default Ignition2) was not connected. After they connect it, I can now activate the reservation mode and remote start my car.

Unfortunately, something in my car wiring was grounded (probably the power lock), later that night my engine died and I got stuck on the road, no electricity coming from my battery but my battery is fine. I waited for a qualified electrician the next morning and they bypass the relay in my alarm module so I can start my car. Long story short, I had my car generally rewired to permanently fixed my electrical problem since this was the second time in a month I had an electrical problem in my car.

After the general wiring, I can't seam to activate the reservation mode, but everything else is working, I had my car checked by 3 different professional car alarm installer and they told me probably my car module (Compustar 7000-AS) is probably broken.

I ask a credible Toyota car specialist to add a wire from voltage gauge for my alternator sensing instead of tach sensing and after reprogramming the module to use the alternator sensing using the OP500 it still won't activate my reservation mode.

I also tried activating the turbo timer using the OP500 and activate the turbo timer in my remote and the engine dies as soon as I turn of the key.

Is it possible that my Compustar Module is busted?

Here are the wires that is currently connected,

CN1 (High Current Ignition Harness):
1 - Red (12V Constant) - 12V Constant
2 - GREEN / WHITE (Default Parking Light) - Parking Light
3 - RED / White(12V Constant) - 12V Constant
4 - White (Default Accessory) - Accessory
5 - Blue (Default Ignition 2) - Ignition
6 - Yellow (Starter) - Starter
7 - Green (Ignition) - Ignition
8 - Black (GND) - Ground

CN2 (Back-up Battery Port) - Not connected

CN3 (Low Current Ignition Harness) - Not Connected

CN4 (ADS Blade Connector) - Not Connected

CN5:
1 - Blue/White (GWA) - Connected to Relay Blue Wire
2 - Brown (Siren Out) - Siren
3 - White (Horn) - Not Connected
4 - Light Blue/White (Foot Break) - Pedal Break
5 - Blue/Green (Lock Out) - Door Lock
6 - Light Blue (E Brake In) - Hand break
7 - Blue (Unlock out) - Door Unlock
8 - Violet/Black (Trunk Trigger In) - Not Connected
9 - ORANGE / White (Disarm Out) - Not Connected
10 - RED / White (Door Trigger In) - Door Triggers
11 - Orange (Rearm Out) - Not Connected
12 - BROWN / White (Keysense In) - Not Connected
13 - Violet/White (Truck Out) - Not Connected
14 - Pink (Trigger Start In) - Not Connected
15 - Black (Status Out) - Not Connected
16 - Gray/Black (Hood In) - Not Connected
17 - GREEN / WHITE (Light Out) - Not Connected
18 - Yellow/Black (Tach In) - Voltage Meter from Gauge
19 - RED / Black ( Starter Out) - Not Connected
20 - WHITE/ Black (Accessory Out) - Not Connected

CN6 (RS232 Data Port 2)- Not Use

CN7 (RS232 Data Port) - Not Use

CN8 (Thermister Port) - Thermister

CN9 (4 Pin Antenna Port)- Not Use

CN10 (6 Pin Antenna Port) - FT-EZGO (PRO 2-WAY 901 antenna is connected to FT-EZGO Antenna)

CN11 (Lock Harness Port) - Not Use

CN12 (LED Port) - LED Light

CN13 (RPS Port) - Not Use

CN14 (FT-DAS Port) - FT-DAS

CN15 (Auxillary Sensor Port) - Not Use

Regarding the Anti-Grind Relay the 4 professional installer told me it is working since I can't start the car when the car is Armed and it sound of the alarm.

Here are additional question I have:
1. Does Ignition 2 same with Ignition wire? 0V OFF, 0V Accessory, 12V Ignition, 0V Crank, 12V Back to Ignition.
2. Do I need to connect CN5-17, CN5-18, CN5-20? If yes, where do I connect it?


Thank you very much.

Okay so a few problems i see so far.

1) Tach wire is at the fusebox or at the distributor. voltage sensing is not a possible option for manual transmission.

2) The starter relay is correct if during armed mode it will not engage the starter. If your car became immobilized out of the blue, your relay might be latching due to it being faulty.

3) use the OP500 change it back to tach or follow option table programming. Reprogram tach. In order for reservation mode to set, you need door trigger, ignition, tach, foot brake.

Look at the brain and make sure the grey 20pin is plugged into the grey port. The 20pin black connector next to it is for the blade. I've heard of accidental mistakes on that part.

Check functionality of your door pin with the 901 remote. Open driver door, press the start button once for status update. It should flash the door. Close and test again (shouldn't flash on 901)

CN5-18 MUST BE CONNECTED. Black Driver fuse box or engine distributor harness.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Hi Ted,

Thank you very much for your reply.

1. Alternatively I have chosen the Alternator Sensing because when testing the Tach Wire that was tapped from the Tachometer Gauge my multi-meter tester shows the AC Voltage is 30 on idle and it won't go up and down when Reving, just plain 30.

I asked to wire it from my voltage meter gauge and use the alternator sensing instead, but I guess the wire connection is wrong because on ignition it shows 12V instead of 4V (according to the manual) and 14V when the car is running.

Will tapping a voltage meter for alternator sensing will work? If not I'll ask a professional to wire the tach wire directly from fuel injector or the computer box if it is possible.

2. Starter Relay is correct, when armed I can't turn on the engine and the alarm sounds and I got a notification in my remote.

3. Grey 20 pins are securely in the port. Door triggers are correct because when I left the door open and arm the car it shoes that my car door is open.

Again thank you very much!

the most important wire for manual transmission is the tach wire. Without it reservation just will not enabled.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Hi Again Ted,

The first time it work the installer tested the tach wire connection and when reving the test meter goes up, but know it is on idle at 30V. Though my Tachometer is working fine, I don't know how to properly connect the tach wire.

Do you know where is the fuel injector wires located in a 1990 Toyota Corolla Wagon, my engine is 4-EFTE Turbo

Thanks

hey kabayan,

get your tach wire from the ignition coil or fuel injection. use the wire that are not in common. check also your DAS sensor (red connector), without this sensor car won't activate the reservation mode.  check your door trigger, u can also use the domelight supervision to connect to your cm7000 door trigger. for the turbo timer, if you activated this one using the op500 programmer, you have to turn on the turbo in your remote. Press F followed by unlock to turn on the turbo timer.

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tianot

Ignition coil, terminal marked either SW, CB or (-).

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Hi Tianot (kabayan! :]) and Howie,

I have no idea where to find the ignition wire and injector wire. Can you help me out?

I am assuming that this are my injector wire...






and here is the wiring diagram of the wires.




Where should I tap the tach wire?

Thanks everyone!

any color but NOT the RED / black wire.

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tianot

Hi Tianot,

Thank you very much for the fast reply.

Is this my Ignition Coil where I need to tap my tach wire?

Thanks

If this is the one I might choose this one because it is closer to my firewall sockets.

Again thank you very much!

Hi Again Tianot,

I called a certified toyota specialist and he suggested that he'll just tap the tach wire in the ecu box for the fuel injectors.

Is this possible or I should tap directly to ONE of ANY of the Green or Yellow color wire.

Thanks

you can get it at the injector. tap into green or yellow

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

get it from the injector. use the green or yellow.


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tianot

Hi Tianot,

I have already asked the certified toyota electrician to connect the tach wire in the green wire of the fuel injector at the ecu box. I have also relearn the tach sense but the reservation mode still wont work. Is it possible I have broken brain? Thanks

Ok so I have tried all the connection needed.

1. Tach Wire - I set the ignition controlled lock (Option 01-09 FO3) to RPM lock. I set the tachsense idle to 1000RPM and as soon as the RPM goes to 1,300RPM the doors lock.

2. E-Break - As soon as I pull up the e-break my doors unlock because of the ignition controlled lock.

3. Foot Break - Same as ignition controlled lock (Option 01-09 FO2) when I start the car and I press the foot break and the doors lock.

4. Door triggers - I open the door and armed the car and it shows my door is open.

5. DAS - I armed the car hit the dashboard and the alarm sounds showing "Shock 1"

So I think I have all wires connected properly.

Both reservation mode won't work and turbo timer mode wont work.

Here's how I activate reservation mode.
1. I shift to neutral
2. Release the foot break
3. Pull the e-break. (all doors are close ofcourse)
4. Heared a clicking sound from the module
5. Turn of the engine (engine turns off immediately)

Thanks :)

pull your ebrake first, then release your foot off the brake.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

as far as turbo timer goes, you have to turn it on in programming. program 2-2 FO3 (1 minute)

on your 901ss, Press F one time, then Unlock in order to turn it on.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Hi Ted,

I have followed your instructions but stillnitnwont go to reservation mode. I also tried changing the option using OP500 for the turbo timer and activate my turbo timer in my remote and it wont work also.

Thanks

how did u re learn the tach? did u get a 1 flashing light when u learn the tach?
when u set the car to reservation mode, is the car still running when u take out the key?



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tianot

your programming options could be causing a no start issue, since you made many changes.
If you own an OP500, connect it and press and hold W and R together. Screen will say INIT then 1-01. Press and hold W until it says Success.

Reprogram tach - start car, hold foot brake, press start on the 901 remote. Unit should click one time

Enter reservation mode. Press and hold brake pedal, pull ebrake, release foot, remove key, open driver door, close driver door.



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

@tianot

When relearning the tach sense I get a 1 siren chirp and a parking light at the same time.

After pulling the ebreak and remove my foot off the foot break heard a click sound as soon as my foot release the break, the engine dies immediately when I turn the key off.

@ted
Almost all of my options are in default (Option 1) exept for the following

1-09 - Option 3
1-14 - Option 3
4-02 - Option 2

your one siren chirp is a good tach. enter reservation mode again, after you remove your foot take a look at your dash lights. wait until it flashes once, then stays dim(approximately 3 seconds) Now remove your keys. vehicle should stay running

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Hi ted,

My dash lights won't flash after removing my foot off the break just a click sound.

Thanks

check your ebrake wire?
check also your foot brake? if you got a good foot brake wire, it might be your foot brake switch is bad.

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tianot

Hi Tianot,

What do you mean that my foot break switch is bad? how will I verify this? When I set my ignition controlled lock to Option 2 as soon as I step in my breaks the doors lock.

Thanks

Just to add, as soon as I pull the ebreaks and my ebreak lights in the dashboard know lights up my doors unlock.

I am really starting to think I have a bad brain, probably it got affected when my car got grounded.

Would this be possible?

Thanks everyone

as tianot said, you have the wrong brake wire most likely. Pull out a meter set to DC black to ground, red to brake wire. When brake is pressed it should show 12v.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Test and verify every wiring connection.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

i think your problem is you did not power up your IGN2. so what happen is when u set the car to reservation mode, the car won't stay run because the ign2 was not powered up. connect your IGN2 to the blue heavy gauge wire of cm7000 (this is a programmable relay, make sure the jumper connector is set to ign2). and your IGN1 wire is connected to CM7000 green heavy gauge wire.



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tianot

I was under the impression it remote starter after another installer connected the 2nd ign. It worked for sometime, then stopped working.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Who knows I'm totally

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Holy moly! It is now working! I trace everything and tianot is correct my ignition 2 is not connected properly. The ignition and ignition 2 on my remote are both connected to ignition 1 of my car.

I rewired everything and now it works. I also set the turbo timer to 1 minute and holy moly it is working!

Phew! I saved money in buying a new brain.

Thank you everyone for your time and help!

Thanks 12volt!

no problem!

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tianot