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Installing Avital 4105 Remote Start, 2003 Toyota Camry LE

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Topic: Installing Avital 4105 Remote Start, 2003 Toyota Camry LE

Posted By: blucamry
Subject: Installing Avital 4105 Remote Start, 2003 Toyota Camry LE
Date Posted: June 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM

New member here trying to be "dad of the year" and install an AVITAL 4105 remote start in my son's 2003 Toyota Camry LE 4-cyl. Here are the questions that I have:
1. I cannot find the Rx and Tx wires for the Bypass. Does my car even need the bypass? How do I know if my key even has a chip in it?
2. How do I know if my car has a factory alarm? If it does, where are all of those wires located?
3. Before hooking up the remote start, all doors would lock but just the drivers door would unlock. Can I hook up something differently so all doors unlock at the same time?
4. Do you need to hook up any of the "satellite harness" wires that are all (-) 200 mA status, accessory, starter, ignition outputs?
5.Do you need to hook up any of the following (if so, where to):
   (-) 200 mA factory alarm disarm
   (-) 200 mA factory alarm rearm
   (+) ignition our (to alarm)
   (-) activation input
6. There are two BLACK / YELLOW wires running down from the ignition switch. What do I do with the one that I did not use?
Thank you in advance for any help you can offer. I am baffled!!


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just another car guy



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 21, 2015 at 3:51 PM

An easy way to determine if your key has a transponder chip and you need a bypass module, is to do the foil wrap test.  It is described
in the Pictorial Section.   Basically, you wrap the ignition key head in several layers of aluminum foil, leaving just the blade exposed.  Then
try to start the engine.  Watch the instrument cluster.  If it starts, no chip and no bypass needed.  If it cranks, won't start and has some type
of Security light flashing, you need a bypass module.

You can program the Viper to a double Unlock pulse output ( Menu 1, Feature 5, Option 2 ) to unlock all the doors with one Viper Unlock
command.  Or you can find the Unlock All wire in the PKP.

Your car probably doesn't have a Factory Alarm.  To test, get in the car, press the lock button on the drivers door while the door is open,
then shut the door ( or shut the door and press the Factory FOB Lock button ).  Wait a minute then open the door with the drivers inside
handle.  If the horn beeps, you have the Factory Alarm.

If you have the transponder based engine immobilizer system, you will need the (-) 200 mA Status Output wire, if you don't go D2D to
bypass module.  You will also need the (-) 200mA Ignition or Starter Output to handle all the Camry's ignition wires ( 2 IGN, 2 Starter and
1 ACC ).  The Viper can only directly supply 4 out of the 5.  An extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with harness and fuse will be required to
do the install properly.

One BLACK / YELLOW wire is Starter 2 and the other is IGN 2.  You will need to use a Digital Multi Meter to determine the difference.  That is
the best and safest way to tell.  Here is a listing of the ignition wires from ReadyRemote if you want to try to go by the pin numbers /
location :
12volts         WHITE/ red (30A)    +     ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7
Starter         BLACK/ white  +     ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 8  
Second Starter        BLACK / YELLOW  +            ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1  
Ignition        BLACK/ red  +     ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6  
Second Ignition       BLACK / YELLOW  +            ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 4  
Accessory   blue/red  +     ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 3

Here is a link to the Wire Guide from ReadyRemote :  https://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?make=Toyota&model=Camry

They even have a photo of the main ignition connector for wire identification.

Bulldog Security has the wire info for your car along with a bunch of photos.  Here is a link :  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.aspx

Good luck and Happy Fathers Day!



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 21, 2015 at 5:21 PM

Special Fathers Day bonus :

Main Harness, 9-pin connector
1 LIGHT GREEN BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM          Not Used
2 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM REARM          Not Used
3 YELLOW (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM)    Not Used
4 WHITE/ BLUE (-) ACTIVATION INPUT           Not Used
5 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN LOCKED/ANTI-GRIND OUTPUT        Not Used
6 BROWN (-) 200mA HORN OUTPUT GREEN/ BLACK (-)  @ STEERING COLUMN HARNESS 
7 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT need relay - see notes below
8 BLACK GROUND     chassis ground
9 WHITE (+/-) LIGHT FLASH OUTPUT set jumper/fuse to (-)     RED (-)  @ HEAD LIGHT SWITCH, WHITE Plug 

The Trunk Release wire is WHITE/ BLUE IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL .  It will test as a (+) pulse when the trunk is popped.  You will
need another 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with 15 Amp fuse for this.  Here is the wiring :
Relay Pin 85 to Viper RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12 Volt constant through fuse
Relay Pin 87a to BCM side of cut WHITE/ Blue wire
Relay Pin 30 to trunk side of cut WHITE/ Blue wire

Door Lock, 3-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) UNLOCK    Program to double unlock pulse      BLUE (-)  IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, HARNESS from DOOR, WHITE Plug 
2 EMPTY NOT USED
3 GREEN (-) LOCK BLUE / YELLOW (-)  IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, HARNESS from DOOR, BLUE Plug 

Remote start, 6-pin connector
1 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT     WHITE/ RED (+) (12 Gauge)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG
2 PINK/WHITE OUTPUT TO 2nd IGNITION/ACC      **   BLACK / YELLOW (+) (20 Gauge)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG   
3 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT     WHITE/ RED (+) (12 Gauge)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG
4 ORANGE OUTPUT TO ACCESSORY CIRCUIT   BLUE/RED (+) (18 Gauge)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG
5 PURPLE OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUIT       BLACK/ WHITE (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG 
6 PINK OUTPUT TO PRIMARY IGNITION CIRCUIT        BLACK/ RED (+) (14 Gauge)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG 

**  Viper default programming is OK.  Pink/White is Ignition 2.

Satellite harness, 4-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT   to bypass module GWR Input, if bypass is required
2 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT not used
3 PURPLE (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT      to external relay, Pin 85 ( see below )
4 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION OUTPUT   not used

Extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay for Starter 2
Relay Pin 85 to Viper PURPLE (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant thru 10 Amp fuse
Relay Pin 30 to BLACK / YELLOW (+) (20 Gauge)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG 

Remote Start harness, 5-pin connector
1 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT   to Chassis Ground if Auto Transmission
2 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE     to OBD2 Pin 9, BLACK/ Orange, if 4 Cyl Engine
3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT WIRE GREEN / WHITE (+)  @ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL         
4 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE          to Viper kit supplied hood pin
5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER       not used

Here is a link to a common, readily available, reliable and fairly inexpensive bypass module, the PKALL : 
https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6226&productid=196&firmwareid=1636



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Posted By: blucamry
Date Posted: June 22, 2015 at 4:13 PM
kreg 357,
First of all thank you for all of the information that you provided. I found out that my car does not have an alarm, nor does it have a transponder system. That is the good news. The bad is that I still do not have the remote start working. Here are a few more questions:
1. Does relay pin 30 (satellite harness starter output) go to the same BLACK / YELLOW (+) (20 gauge) wire that the pink/white goes to?
2. If so, that is how I have it hooked up.
3. Here is what it does: I hit the remote start button and the chime goes "ding". The lights on the dash light up. The radio comes on and all sounds good for a brief second. Then the radio goes out and everything sounds like it is powering down.
4. Any idea why, before and after the remote start install, only the driver's door unlocks???
Any more help would be great!!!!!!!

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just another car guy




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 22, 2015 at 7:29 PM

Not sure of your question.  Here is the install :

There are two thick Red wires in the Vipers main ignition harness.  Both or these get soldered to the WHITE/ Red +12 Volt constant wire
in the Camry's main ignition harness.  This wire is shown in the Bulldog Security photo ( link below ).  As noted by Ready Remote, this
is Pin 7.  

Going by the photo, just to the right of the RED / White wire is a BLACK/ White wire.  This is Pin 8 and the Starter1 wire.  The Vipers thick
Purple wire will be soldered to this wire.

Again, going by the photo, just to the left of the WHITE/ Red wire is a BLACK/ Red wire.  This is Pin 6 and the Ignition 1 wire.  As shown
below, the Vipers thick Pink wire will be soldered to this wire.

That does it for the top row.  On the bottom row, the unique wire is the Blue/Red wire.  ReadyRemote lists this wire as the Accessory
wire and Pin 3.  The Viper's thick Orange wire would be soldered to this wire.

That means that the Black Yellow wire just to the left of the Blue/Red wire is Pin 4 and the Ignition 2 wire.  The Viper's thick Pink/White
wire gets soldered to this wire.

All that is left is the BLACK / YELLOW wire that must be at Pin 1 and marked as Starter 2 by all the available wiring guides.  The Viper is
fresh out of thick +12 output wires and can not directly support this necessary wire.  This is where the external 30/40 Amp SPDT
relay is used.  The Viper has a convenient low current (-) output called (-) 200mA Starter Output.  We use this to trigger the relay.
When the relay is triggered ( energized ), the internal contacts connect Pin 87 to Pin 30.  Pin 87 is connected to +12V constant
and Pin 30 gets this voltage and supplies it through it's soldered connection to the Camry's Pin 1 BLACK / YELLOW Starter 2 wire.

Reference #1  ReadyRemote wire guide
12volts         WHITE/ red (30A)    +     ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7
Starter         BLACK/ white  + ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 8  
Second Starter        BLACK / YELLOW  +   ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1  
Ignition        BLACK/ red  +     ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6  
Second Ignition       BLACK / YELLOW  +   ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 4  
Accessory   blue/red  +      ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 3

Reference #2  Bulldog Security  photo
https://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/images/XLarge_2002-TOYOTA-CAMRY-IGNITION-WIRES.jpg

Reference #3  Viper main ignition wiring
Remote start, 6-pin connector
1 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT     WHITE/ RED (+) (12 Gauge)  @ Pin 7 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG
2 PINK/WHITE OUTPUT TO 2nd IGNITION/ACC           BLACK / YELLOW (+) (20 Gauge)  @ Pin 4 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG   
3 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT     WHITE/ RED (+) (12 Gauge)  @ Pin 7 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG
4 ORANGE OUTPUT TO ACCESSORY CIRCUIT   BLUE/RED (+) (18 Gauge)  Pin 3 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG
5 PURPLE OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUIT       BLACK/ WHITE (+)  @ Pin 8 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG 
6 PINK OUTPUT TO PRIMARY IGNITION CIRCUIT        BLACK/ RED (+) (14 Gauge)  @ Pin 6 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG  \

Reference #4  Starter 2 relay
Extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay for Starter 2
Relay Pin 85 to Viper PURPLE (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant thru 10 Amp fuse
Relay Pin 30 to BLACK / YELLOW (+) (20 Gauge)  @ Pin 1 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS PLUG 



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 22, 2015 at 7:33 PM
There are a few programming changes the Viper needs and you must do the Tach Learn process.

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Posted By: blucamry
Date Posted: June 22, 2015 at 8:08 PM
kreg357,

It works!! I did not have the relay hooked to the correct BLACK / YELLOW wire. You have just made me the greatest Dad on earth. I would not have been able to do this without you. You are truly an amazing person, with kindness and patience that we all wish we had. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and allowing me to witness a smile on my son's face that would provoke a tear or two in any man's eyes.

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just another car guy





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