Viper 5706v won’t start my 2010 Chevy Malibu
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=139222
Printed Date: April 23, 2024 at 8:41 AM
Topic: Viper 5706v won’t start my 2010 Chevy Malibu
Posted By: lopezjorge123
Subject: Viper 5706v won’t start my 2010 Chevy Malibu
Date Posted: July 24, 2015 at 7:48 AM
I just finished installing the viper 5706v with the directed DBALL2. I have it hooked up W2W not D2D. I followed wiring diagrams to the T and I'm having a problem with the remote start function. The alarm seems to be working fine. Lock,unlock,trunk, work just fine. Yet doest star the car. After about an hour of troubleshooting I notice that it does work if the key is inserted in the off position and it will shut off after the preset time too. Normally A sign that a bypass is needed, but I do have one, I programmed the key over and over but it was the same. I also reflashed the DBALL2 but still the same problem. Any ideas on what I may be doing wrong? There's no shops around so I have to figure this out here .... thanks in advance
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 24, 2015 at 6:45 PM
One of the more common mistakes made when going W2W is the GWR connection. In your case you can use the Viper Dark Bue (-) 200mA Status Output to the DB-ALL2 Blue/White (-) GWR (Status) Input. Check that connection first.
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Posted By: lopezjorge123
Date Posted: July 24, 2015 at 8:01 PM
Yes that's exactly how it is connected. I think the main focus is the fact that it starts while the key is in the ignition. Would that be related to wiring or the programming? I ran to best buy to buy another dball2 and flashed it but the same problem. So it wasn't a faulty module. Programmed it following the instructions and even got the green light confirmation from the dball2 indicator. I'm out of ideas now
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 24, 2015 at 8:52 PM
I might be out of idea's, too. I have never used a DB-ALL2 on these cars. My preference is iDatalink.
One last thought. The install guide diagram shows that the PK3 Immobilizer connector has the RED / White wire cut. That wire is not on the same connector as the ignition wires. Here is a photo of the Green main ignition connector :
This connector has a RED / White wire that will test as +12V but it is not the one that needs to be cut and connected to the DB-ALL2. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: Mark Mizenko
Date Posted: July 24, 2015 at 10:51 PM
Program a blank key and throw it in a box, boom, done.
Key in a box, ignition, accessory, all it needs to start.
Posted By: lopezjorge123
Date Posted: July 26, 2015 at 8:32 PM
Mr kreg357, I actually did make that mistake at the beginning. But soon rectified. But the RED / white wire is on its correct place. I even tested the wire for 12v constant. Could the problem be the dball2 isnt learning the key ?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 27, 2015 at 6:00 AM
If the car will start with a working key "inserted but not turned" in the ignition switch, it sure sounds like a PK3 transponder bypass
issue. As Mark pointed out, the car is fairly simple to remote start with a blank "circle +" key in a 556UW bypass module. These
keys are available on EBay for less than $10 and easy to program.
As mentioned, I don't use the DB-ALL2. My usual bypass module for these cars is from iDatalink due to the locks, alarm and other
features needed. The wiring is different and they handle the PK3 and Passlock2 differently. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: lopezjorge123
Date Posted: July 27, 2015 at 7:54 AM
Will the 556UW work in conjunction with the dball2 for lock/unlock/trunk features? If so how do I wire it?
Posted By: lopezjorge123
Date Posted: July 27, 2015 at 10:32 AM
According to the 556uw instructions, all that's needed for this to work is power,ground, and GWR- signal. Will tapping into the dball's gwr interrupt any functions?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 27, 2015 at 7:49 PM
If you are not using the Vipers BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT, use that as the GWR input to the 556UW. Default programming is 2nd Status. The DB-ALL2 will be used for the "convenience" features. I've never tried it that way but I believe you can undo & disconnect the RED / White cut on the transponder plug.
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