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VW Golf III Immobiliser Bypass

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=139300
Printed Date: April 18, 2024 at 10:32 AM


Topic: VW Golf III Immobiliser Bypass

Posted By: chassis
Subject: VW Golf III Immobiliser Bypass
Date Posted: August 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM

Good day Gents! I have a someone who owns a Golf III,and this person lost the touch key that you put in the dash before the car can start.I am just wondering if the system can be bypassed as some say it can't and the onwer will now have to change to an open ecu to cut out the immobiliser function.I just want to know if someone here have done it already perhaps before I attempt something I won't be able to finish.It has a VW Alarm/Immobiliser module right behind the glovebox mounted to a bracket with a lot of white wires,all the wires on the harness are white. posted_image

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: August 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM
If it's a touch key that's an aftermarket immobiliser*, assuming the vehicle is SA build. Trace back from the touch point. Usually 2 cuts on the ignition loom which terminates in a black plug, then feeds down to the fusebox lower right, drop the knee panel for access.
Starter wire RED / Black.
Ignition, Black just cut and make good.
*RFI chip is inside the key and you wouldn't notice if it were OEM.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: August 12, 2015 at 12:59 PM
Good! Thanks for the tracing technique from touch-key.Why do some aftermarket modules have the manufacture badge on?

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: August 12, 2015 at 2:48 PM
Copy and paste (with permission ).😎

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: August 12, 2015 at 9:46 PM
Thank you Howie.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: August 16, 2015 at 12:13 PM
Hi Howie.I just want to find out something from you.I've sort it out,found the module,this is a carb vehicle so no electronic fuel pump.I have opened the module,found 2 relays on the board. I Have traced pin 87 and 30 to the harness and bridged them.found out it was for the starter and the ignition,so car started.Customer used the vehicle 1 day,but all of a sudden no spark now.What happens is,if I pull the harness out of the module ,even tho the 2 circuits are already bridged the car stalls after plucking it out.how is that possible,only 2 relays on the board,car doesn't start again.Do you think this is something else on the vehicle or can it be something to do with the module itself again.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: August 16, 2015 at 5:40 PM
Wrong way you should have traced back and identified the two sets of cuts, made good, end of.
And completely removed the module there was no point in keeping it, you only did half a job and wasted your time and credibility opening the module in situ. Plenty of time to "win" the relays afterwards on the bench.
Here's the correct procedure:-
Find module, find cuts, make good, test car, remove module and other wires.


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: August 17, 2015 at 4:26 AM
Good morning Sir.Ok I have finally bypassed it with the module disconnected and after waisting my time lol.It appears to be something to do with the distributor.The Coil sends pulse to distributor from the coil lead to distributor. Ignition module sends pulse to distributor pluck ,but no spark at the plucks. I Have send him to go and buy a new Distributor cap and rotor now.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: August 17, 2015 at 7:09 AM
You actually went at this from the wrong direction!
First look at the symptom then simple diagnosis. BTW Not being clever, this thread started out (my impression) as a how to remove question.
Do the instrument lights come on?
Does the starter turn over?
Then it's not the immobiliser, incidentally no spark at plug, more likely engine management, e.g. cam or crankshaft position sensor if they are fitted.
I had a car that started fine from cold but not from hot, simply changed the camshaft position sensor, cured.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: August 17, 2015 at 7:16 AM
At 1st it was the immobiliser as the instrument lights didn't come on,So I have bypassed it halfway and today completely. Now the instruments lights comes on and it cranks.Ill ask him to change the sensors aswell.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.





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