Viper 5204v, 2013 Subaru Crosstrek
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 05, 2024 at 1:45 PM
Topic: Viper 5204v, 2013 Subaru Crosstrek
Posted By: still in school
Subject: Viper 5204v, 2013 Subaru Crosstrek
Date Posted: October 18, 2015 at 3:20 PM
It's been over 10 years since I've installed my own alarm. I'm about to tackle installing the Viper 5204v into a 2013 Subaru Crosstrek. I'll be using the DEI 556u for the transponder bypass. Can someone look over this to verify I'm using all the correct wires? Am I missing any connections?
PRIMARY HARNESS
o H1/1 RED / Wh (-) Trunk Release Out N/A
o H1/2 Red (+) 12V Constant In
12 Volts white (common 40A) + relay holder behind dash fuse box, white 44 pin plug, pin 29
o H1/3 Brown (+) Siren Out to red of sirens
o H1/4 WHITE/ Br Light Flash Iso N/A
o H1/5 Black (-) Ground to common ground
o H1/6 Violet (+) Door Trigger N/A
o H1/7 Blue (-) Instant Trigger
o H1/8 Green (-) Door Trigger Input
Left Front Door Trigger blue/orange to blue/white - driver kick, white 10 pin plug, pin 8
o H1/9 BLACK/ White (-) Dome Light Out
o H1/10 WHITE/ Blue (-) Remote Start
o H1/11 White Parking Light Out
Parking Lights (+) BLACK/ white + dash fuse box, white 20 pin plug, pin 12
o H1/12 Orange (-) Ground-When-Armed
AUX HARNESS (NONE USED)
o H2/1 Lt. GREEN/ Blk (-) Factory Disarm Out N/A
o H2/2 Lt. GREEN/ Wh (-) Factory Arm Out N/A
o H2/3 WHITE/ Vio Aux 1 Out
o H2/4 Violet/Blk Aux 2 Out
o H2/5 WHITE/ Blk Aux 3 Out
o H2/6 Lt. Blue 2nd Unlock Out
o H2/7 Gray/Blk Wait-to-Start (diesel only) N/A
o H2/8 BROWN / Blk Factory Horn Out (Optional) to Ignition Harness (“IGN”) D4 (horn relay control)
HEAVY GAUGE REMOTE START
o H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Out & Ign 1 input
Ignition green + dash fuse box, rear, brown 9 pin plug, pin 8
o H3/2 RED / Wh (+) Ignition 2
Second Ignition blue + dash fuse box, rear, brown 9 pin plug, pin 3
o H3/3 Orange (+) Accessory
o H3/4 Violet (+) Starter Out
Starter BLACK/ white + relay holder behind dash fuse box, white 44 pin plug, pin 2
o H3/5 Green (+) Starter In
Starter BLACK/ white + relay holder behind dash fuse box, white 44 pin plug, pin 2
o H3/6 Red (+) Ignition 1 In
o H3/7 Pink/Wh (+) Ignition 2 Out
o H3/8 Pink/Blk (+) Flex Relay In N/A
o H3/9 RED / Blk (+) Accessory In
o H3/10 N/C
REMOTE START INPUT
o 1 BLACK/ Wh (-) Neutral Safety Switch
o 2 Violet/Wh Tach In
Tachometer green ac Keyless Access Module right of BIU, white 18 pin plug, pin 17
o 3 Brown (+) Brake Shutdown Wire
Brake Wire brown + dash fuse box, white 20 pin plug, pin 15
o 4 Gray (-) Hood Pin Switch
o 5 Blue/Wh Rear Defog Out
Rear Defroster PURPLE / green - latched BIU behind dash fuse box, white 34 pin plug, pin 26
REMOTE START AUX OUTPUT (NONE USED)
o 1 N/A
o 2 N/A
o 3 N/A
o 4 N/A
o 5 N/A
DOOR LOCK HARNESS
o 1 Blue (+) Lock (-) Unlock output
Power Unlock blue/black - driver kick, white 28 pin plug, pin 16
o 2 N/A
o 3 Green (-) Lock (+) Unlock output
Power Lock lt. GREEN/ black - driver kick, white 28 pin plug, pin 15
Replies:
Posted By: still in school
Date Posted: October 18, 2015 at 3:31 PM
Should the Accessory wire from the Heavy Gauge Remote Start harness be connected?
If so , I have it as "Blue/yel + dash fuse box)
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 18, 2015 at 5:53 PM
Some issues with the thick ignition wires. I prefer to go to the ignition switch harness but that is your choice.
HEAVY GAUGE REMOTE START o H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Out & Ign 1 input Ignition green + dash fuse box, rear, brown 9 pin plug, pin 8 o H3/2 RED / Wh (+) Ignition 2 white (common 40A) + ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 4 o H3/3 Orange (+) Accessory yellow + ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 2 o H3/4 Violet (+) Starter Out Starter BLACK/ white + relay holder behind dash fuse box, white 44 pin plug, pin 2 o H3/5 Green (+) Starter In Starter BLACK/ white + relay holder behind dash fuse box, white 44 pin plug, pin 2 o H3/6 Red (+) Ignition 1 In white (common 40A) + ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 4 o H3/7 Pink/Wh (+) Ignition 2 Out Second Ignition blue + dash fuse box, rear, brown 9 pin plug, pin 3 o H3/8 Pink/Blk (+) Flex Relay In N/A o H3/9 RED / Blk (+) Accessory In white (common 40A) + ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 4 o H3/10 N/C
Here is a link to the wiring info from ReadyRemote ( aka DEI ) : https://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?make=Subaru&model=Impreza ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: still in school
Date Posted: October 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM
I'm confused all of those needs to be connected? I know the starter wire is cut. So there's:
Ign 1
Ign 2
Accessory
Starter (key side)
Starter (car side)
What's Ig 1 in, ignition 2 out, flex relay, acc in??
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 18, 2015 at 10:17 PM
You will find that DEI writes all their manuals in a slightly encrypted +12V techno fashion. This makes it difficult for non-trade people to understand and use their products.
Basically, the remote start portion of your Viper system must be able to effectively duplicate all the vehicle ignition functions done via a normal key start-up. Your system is generic and supports a wide variety of vehicles. Your Subaru is somewhat common in its' needs, 2 Ignition wires, one Starter wire and one Accessory wire. While the Viper has a basic +12V input wire on the 6 Pin plug, it does not share that power with the heavy wires on the 10 Pin harness. Due to current requirements, these outputs need their own 12 volt supply. In reality, there are four 30 amp relays inside the Viper for this purpose. They are IGN1, Starter, Accessory and Flex. For your car we will use the Flex relay as IGN2, which is its' default setting. The input power for the Pink IGN1 output comes from the Red wire. In relay terms, the red wire is Pin 87 and the Pink wire is Pin 30. The same can be said for RED / White wire ( Pin 87 ) supplying power to the Flex relay and it's Pink/White ( Pin 30 ) output. The Flex relay also has a Pin 87a which is used in special situations. The RED / Black +12V input is for both the Starter and Accessory relays and their Orange and Violet output wires ( Pin 30 on the respective relays ). It can do this because the Starter and Accessory outputs are never both ON at the same time.
There is a Relays link button at the top of the page which has a very good breakdown on basic relay operation. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 19, 2015 at 4:09 AM
Tell us exactly what you connected on H2, you appear to be missing three essential colours, BLACK/ white, PURPLE / white and brown.
------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: still in school
Date Posted: October 21, 2015 at 6:51 PM
kreg357 wrote:
You will find that DEI writes all their manuals in a slightly encrypted +12V techno fashion. This makes it difficult for non-trade people
to understand and use their products.Â
Basically, the remote start portion of your Viper system must be able to effectively duplicate all the vehicle ignition functions done
via a normal key start-up. Your system is generic and supports a wide variety of vehicles. Your Subaru is somewhat common in its'
needs, 2 Ignition wires, one Starter wire and one Accessory wire. While the Viper has a basic +12V input wire on the 6 Pin plug, it
does not share that power with the heavy wires on the 10 Pin harness. Due to current requirements, these outputs need their own
12 volt supply. In reality, there are four 30 amp relays inside the Viper for this purpose. They are IGN1, Starter, Accessory and Flex.Â
For your car we will use the Flex relay as IGN2, which is its' default setting. The input power for the Pink IGN1 output comes from
the Red wire. In relay terms, the red wire is Pin 87 and the Pink wire is Pin 30. The same can be said for RED / White wire ( Pin 87 )
supplying power to the Flex relay and it's Pink/White ( Pin 30 ) output. The Flex relay also has a Pin 87a which is used in special
situations. The RED / Black +12V input is for both the Starter and Accessory relays and their Orange and Violet output wires ( Pin 30
on the respective relays ). It can do this because the Starter and Accessory outputs are never both ON at the same time.
There is a Relays link button at the top of the page which has a very good breakdown on basic relay operation.
Thanks kreg! Makes sense. I just assumed that they would share the same 12v.
Posted By: still in school
Date Posted: October 21, 2015 at 6:52 PM
howie ll wrote:
Tell us exactly what you connected on H2, you appear to be missing three essential colours, BLACK/ white, PURPLE / white and brown.
I don't think anything is needed from the H2 harness
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 21, 2015 at 11:37 PM
I apologise, you did mention them.
------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: still in school
Date Posted: October 27, 2015 at 7:20 AM
Anyone know where the Tach wire is? Someone listed:
Tachometer green ac Keyless Access Module right of BIU, white 18 pin plug, pin 17
But this is for the model with the PTS system. Ready Remote lists the tach wire as:
white, BLACK / YELLOW, BLACK/ red, or BLACK/ blue ac passenger rear of engine, black 54 pin plug, pin 54, 53, 52, or 51
There has to be an easier route. From quick searches, it seems like I should be able to tap into the "green" wire from gauge cluster?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 27, 2015 at 7:32 AM
I agree, gave up years ago on Subie engine bays! Rear of inst. gauges but TEST it.
------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: still in school
Date Posted: October 31, 2015 at 1:00 PM
Success! Thanks Everyone!
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