A bit confused on wiring, viper, 03 suburban

So I currently bought a viper 5706v with a dball2 for my 03 suburban and want to wire in d2d this is my first car alarm/rs install I have found a lot of good info through this site but I'm still a bit confused as there are two sets of of both ignition 1 and ignition 2 and I'm unsure which to use and where and also to clarify I only use the wires described in the dball diagram that are solid nothing else? Any help is appreciated thanks

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connect your wires exactly like the DBALL2 diagram-use only the solid black lines for D2D..

As prdjr165 says, follow the DB-ALL2 guide.  All the blue dashed lines / connections are via the D2D harness.

The Viper can handle most of the vehicles main ignition circuits:

Pink to Pink

Pink/White to White

Orange to Orange

Violet to Yellow ( vehicle side )

Green to Yellow ( key side )

Red, RED / White, RED / Black to +12V constant

You will need an external 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with harness and 25 Amp in-line fuse if you find you need to power the Brown ACC2 circuit during remote start.

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Soldering is fun!

kreg357 wrote:

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You will need an external 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with harness and 25 Amp in-line fuse if you find you need to power the Brown ACC2 circuit during remote start.

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In my endeavor to make my installs as clean as possible, I've been tapping one of the red Viper wires after one of its fuses for the external ACCY relay. There is very little load on the Brown Accy2 wire in a GM. It's only the radio and wipers,; the additional load on the Viper 30A fuse is negligible.

Okay will do thank you for replying

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Okay one more question I have two 12v Constant wires on the ignition loom under the dash that are red and RED / white so do I join the RED / black with one of the red and RED / white coming from viper going to these under dash?

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Also key side I assume is what's under dash so where would I look for the yellow wire vehicle side to attach the green wire thanks you all have helped a ton already

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Then brake switch is the brown wire on the 25 pin connector right? Also looks like either the white or white brown off the 6 pin goes to the bcm for parking lights which one should I use

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Ok so I found the same r/s I used on the site was an 05 siverado but should be the same says the RED / white and RED / black both go to the red and and the red goes to the RED / white and the connections for the 24 pin I'm not hooking up the orange acc with relay or Hood pin switch is this okay here's the link of what I was looking athttps://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=138578&tpn=3#reply

Also green and violet also go into the yellow is this right?

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chevyguy86 wrote:

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Also green and violet also go into the yellow is this right?

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Cut the yellow in half. Then follow Kreg's instructions he posted above. Here's what to do with the yellow:

Violet to Yellow ( vehicle side )

Green to Yellow ( key side )

Oh okay that makes more since and i did follow kregs instructions but he left out which wires to connect the red ones to also the dball diagram says to hookup parking lights and brake I think I found the brake still unsure on which parking light wire to use thanks for the reply I appreciate it every little bit helps sorry for being such a newb

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Are you testing these wires? Don't assume, wiring colours may vary, please check and verify each connection.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

No I didn't test and it trys to start over and over with key on accessory other than that looks lime everything else was right but now I gotta trace down which wire or wires are causing it to do this next time I'll definitely test first like I said though this is my first one so im still learning thanks for the reply

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Or sorry key in on position it does that not accessory

So does this mean I need a relay to make it work properly I took the two green and violet starter wires back off for now untill I get this figured out not sure what would make it do that but I'm going back through and checking wires to make sure they are all right if anybody has any input I'm pretty desperate at this point thanks

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Everything appears to be hooked up correctly what am I missing?

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chevyguy86 wrote:

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Everything appears to be hooked up correctly........... what am I missing?

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Appearances can be deceiving, can't they? You've done something wrong, and don't have the basic understanding or experience to figure out what  it IS that you've done wrong. From my view on the other side of the monitor, I think you're in over your head. Do the following before you possibly damage the wiring or systems in your :Suburban that could cost more to repair than the vehicle is worth.

• Unplug ALL connectors from the module.
• Place the module on the passenger seat.
• Drive the vehicle to an authorized, professional, DEI Installer.
• Tell them you've probably made a mess, but will they take a look and see if they can reinstall your Viper properly.
• Pay the [probably large] bill, and enjoy your system.

chevyguy86 wrote:

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..... viper 5706v with a dball2 for my 03 suburban .....this is my first car alarm/rs install 

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Be smart. Recognize that you can't do this after all, and pay someone to do it that can.

Geuss I came to the wrong place for help or to ask questions thanks for nothing and BTW I am a master mechanic so I do know quite a bit just not this doesn't mean I can't figure it out I'd just rather ask somebody that's done it before everybody does something the first time Davep that's how you learn

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Then with your "experience" you should have this working without any assistance. You asked "questions", and they were answered.  Now you're asking for a solution to a problem that can't be answered (easily, or at all) without a close visual inspection. And you haven't even gotten to the point where DBALL programing and other bypass-related issues need to be resolved. Once it doesn't crank by turning on the key (never seen anyone do that on here), there will still be the bypass to get working.

BTW, I don't know what qualifications or experience you have to call yourself a "master technician". I don't call myself a "master technician" (because that term means different things to different people), even though I've held an ASE Master Automotive Tech cert since 1978, that I still keep current. My 40+ year interest in cars has been mostly GM, so I know GM wiring and colors by memory. It's knowledge, not a label that fixes things. But no amount of  knowledge or experience can help me figure out what you've done wrong because there are endless possibilities. If I could see it, I'd probably figure it out in less than 60 seconds.(Yes, I'm very confident in my abilities with this subject).  But I can't.

So back to basics:

What wires on the Viper have you connected to what wires in the Suburban?

Begin with the heavy gauge wires.  Use Kreg's post as a guide. He has it exactly right, including where to put the power (red, RED / blk, RED / wht Viper) wires.

 

Burning up the wiring harness in your truck is a hard, expensive "learning process".

Well I'm not afraid to admit that your experience far surpasses mine nor that you are right about the knowledge which I am lacking that's why I'm here sorry for that though I was throwing tools as I wrote that haha and thank you for replying I do appreciate that sir as for the wiring everything else works it's isolated to the remote start I believe it's a wire in the wrong place as nothing is messed up but here is what I got red wire from viper goes to RED / white, RED / black and RED / white goes to red, pink to pink, orange to orange,pink/white to white and violet to car side of yellow,green to key side of yellow not sure if it's relevant or not but might as well include it as I read the dball instructions it had said not to plug in and hit the button to program well I obviously couldn't do this because the unit wasn't receiving any power I found another diagram for same unit which described a different procedure so I used that one and it worked I just haven't programed it yet so not sure if not having it on at first did something I don't think it would but I'm not 100% also neutral safety is at ground brake shutdown to white wire on brake switch horn honk is hooked to black at bcm white parking light output to to grey/black on bcm again thanks

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