viper 4105v, 04 Chevy Cavalier

Hi everyone new to the page.

Ok I'm installing a 4105v viper remote start on the wifes car 04 chevy cavalier with auto transmission and i may be in a little over my head. 2 questions first my anti grind wire in nor exactly sure where i need to connect this one. 2nd... BLACK/ white neutral safety wire according to write schematics i spice into the white wire on the prndl switch. Is that correct? Thanks for any help.

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Robert

The anti grind wire would trigger a relay that you would have to connect to the starter wire from ignition switch to break the circuit. Alldata says its yellow, but you would have to confirm with your dmm.


If you don't care about that, than dont use it.

your blk/wht neutral wire. Confirm that you can't start your car in gear, only in Park and neutral. If so, just ground it.

Mscguy thank you for helping out. Ok so here's what i got, i grounded the BLACK/ wire wire like you mentioned. Got everything i believe i needed connected and was able to program the remote but nothing happens when i hit start with the remote. There is a two wire toggle switch and the hood pin switch i didn't hook up because i don't think i need them. Do i need them hooked up if so how should i hook them up? Would that keep the remote system from operating/working?
Thanks again for your help

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Robert

robert78 wrote:

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   There is a two wire toggle switch and the hood pin switch i didn't hook up because i don't think i need them. Do i need them hooked up if so how should i hook them up? Would that keep the remote system from operating/working?
Thanks again for your help

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Whats on the end of the toggle? Bare wire or a connector?

Hood pin - Yes. Hook it up. Starter will work without it, but it is unsafe. If you or someone else is under the car/in the hood area etc, and you bump the fob, it could start. The hood switch tells the unit that the hood is open, preventing it from operating.

On the end of the two wire toggle switch is just two wires. I'm not getting anything not even trying to start or parking lights coming on to indicate it's trying to start.

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Robert

The toggle should be a shutdown/disable switch for the whole unit. You should be able to wire it in series with the BLACK/ white neutral safety wire you just did. If it's a plug in, just plug it in the appropriate spot on the module. You shouldn't NEED it to function, but I would think it would be nice to disable the r/s if needed.

Fuses test ok?
Anything clicking?
What did you ground it to?

Can you list your connections? Use the wire connection template in the downloads.

Fuses are ok, no relays clicking and grounded to metal bracket next to obd2 connector and verified good ground with my power probe.

Ok here's what i got for connections.
Remote start 6 pin harness
2 red positive wires connected to red 12v constant on steering column
Pink/ white wire connected to brown wire secondary ignition (verified 12v with key on)
Orange to orange accesory
Purple to yellow starter wire (verified 12v in run position)
Pink primary ignition to punk ignition (verified 12v in on position)

9 pin main harness
WHITE/ blue activation input wire to ground
Orange anti grind to ground
Brown horn output to - black ground (it works can hear horn when activating remote)
Black to ground
White to light flash (works verified with power probe)

Remote start harness
Blk/wht neutral safety switch wire to ground
Voilet/wht tach wire not connected
Brown brake shutdown to +orange at brake switch (verified 12v)
Grey hood pin not connected

Satellite harness 4 pin connector
Blue status output
Orange accesory output
Purple starter output
Pink ignition output
Was told not to use this connector unless using smartphone to start car from long distances. Please correct me if i was misinformed.

Valet switch is plugged in
Antenna harness is plugged in.

Can get remote to activate and that's it no other activity.

Thank you for your help again






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Robert

Purple to yellow starter wire (verified 12v in run position)

You mean verified in start position?

WHITE/ blue activation input wire to ground - I don't think you need this. Just cap this wire off. That's if you want something other than your fob to start it, like a different control system starting it.

Orange anti grind to ground - I don't think you need to connect this either. Cap it.


You connected the pink/white second ignition right, but you'll have to change the programming to second accessory.

Find a different ground location. Brackets on dashboards aren't always the best. It may light a test light, but that's not always a good indication.

Brown horn output to - black ground (it works can hear horn when activating remote) - You mean the black wire on your horn switch right?

Yes sorry yellow starter wire verified in start position. And yes brown horn output to black horn wire from horn switch. Going to relocate my grounds as you advised. Now when you say change programming to second ignition what exactly do you mean? How do i go about doing that?

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Robert

Did you get a little install guide with your unit? How to do it is in there. Your car has 2 acc wires, and you need to change the programming on that second ign/acc wire. It's default 2nd ign.

Ok relocated my grounds and changed theu 2nd ignition behavior option from default ignition to option 2 which is accesory. Still nothing grr

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Robert

WHITE/ blue activation input wire to ground
Orange anti grind to ground

Did you disconnect these two?

And what bypass are you using?

I did disconnect both of those wires.

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Robert

Not using a bypass module.    going to do the 200ohms resistor trick on the ignition wires. Figured i could at least get it attempt to start but won't because of the passlock 2 system. Am i correct? Once it attempted to fire i would do the next step with the 200ohm resistor on the yellow and black ignition wires.

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Robert

And of course do the ignition relearn procedure

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Robert

You say nothing happens when you start it. You mean no lights, but you hear a horn honk, no dash lights?

Did you get this unit new? Can you check with your dmm if you're getting outputs from ign,acc, and starter wires from the viper when you start it?

What did you do with that toggle switch?

If you wired it in, is it in the On position?

No no light no horn no dash lights. Did buy the unit new. Checked for outputs on acc, starter, and ignition while pushing start button on the remote and no no voltage present. Starting to wonder if the unit is defective, I've done everything correctly according to the install guide and your advice.

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Robert

Never did use the toggle switch

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Robert

Harnesses inserted all the way? Check fuses with voltmeter, not just by looking.

Maybe someone else will chime in on this.

The car does start with the key right?

I do appreciate all your help and yes if anyone else has any ideas im all ears

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Robert

Just to make sure, you were able to go through the menus using horn honks and LED flashes to change that second ignition wire?

So, the unit does do something then.

Also, please make sure you wire in the hood pin when all is said and done. It would be a good idea to put that toggle in too, so you have a means of disabling the starter. I'd hate for you to be draining your oil and you bump your starter button.

I think mscguy has you on the right track. If I remember correctly, the DEI units will not remote start without the toggle switch plugged in and turned on. It's a good idea to install, but if you'd rather not, a small dip jumper like those used on circuit boards will work in it's place. But just plug in your toggle switch in the on position before wasting anymore time. This may be your whole problem.

His toggle has no plug though. It can just get wired in series with the neutral safety, so the starter shouldn't care about that.

Yes mcsguy i was able to go through the menus and change the setting on the second ignition through the honks and led flashes.

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Robert

Take that WHITE/ blue activation input wire. Find a ground near it, use a jumper wire if needed.

Put your voltmeter on your ignition wire.

Briefly touch that WHITE/ blue to ground and release.

Does your meter show anything?

Does the horn honk when you press lock or unlock?

Is there an led on your antenna? What is it doing? Blinking/steady etc.

Did the op get anywhere with this install? I get a beep when I press lock and two beeps for unlock. Locks don't do anything though. Do I need a relay on each to reverse polarity? The led blinks on control module/antenna.

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