2003 Chevy Venture, Viper 4204v
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=140860
Printed Date: October 31, 2024 at 6:12 PM
Topic: 2003 Chevy Venture, Viper 4204v
Posted By: johnramphal
Subject: 2003 Chevy Venture, Viper 4204v
Date Posted: February 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM
hello i have a viper 4204v remote starter and a dball2 bypass module which i am trying to install into a 2003 Chevy venture automatic without any luck. after installing, the power locks works but no start. i hear the internal relay clicking but no signal coming from the starter for remote start. i hooked up my DMM to check the start wire and i can verify that there is no signal there. any help will greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: February 16, 2016 at 9:23 PM
here is my hookup
* car side
ignition 1 *pink
ignition 2 * white
all 12v * red
accessory * orange
starter * yellow
ground * chassis ground
sorry if this was posted before but couldn't find anything
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: February 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM
Your main ignition wiring looks good. You should split the Vipers +12V input load between the vehicles Red and RED / White +12V constant wires instead of just using the only Red wire. Additionally, H1/1 should be connected to +12V constant.
The DB-ALL2 should be flashed with 402.GM5 Ver 3.11 firmware for the 2003 Venture. Did the DB-ALL2 programming procedure follow the Type 1 programming steps exactly?
You didn't mention if you are going W2W of D2D between the Viper and the DB-ALL2. Either way, there are a couple of mandatory hardwire connections. The Vipers thick Pink IGN1 wire goes to both the van and the DB-ALL2. Same for the thick Yellow Starter wire. This is shown on the Type 1 install diagram.
The Vipers Neutral Safety Switch must be plugged in and set to ON. In D2D Mode, the van's Parking Brake must be ON to remote start ( or connect H2/2 to Chassis Ground ).
The Viper must be programmed to Transmission Mode = Automatic, Menu 3, Item 1, Option 2.
If I remember correctly, the Venture had "one-touch" starting. If that is correct, you can run the Viper with Engine Checking = Fixed and let the van handle the cranking ( like it normally does ). That also means the Tach signal and Tach Learn is not necessary. See Menu 3, Item 2, Option 3.
While not part of your current problem, there is a Brown ACC2 wire. It may not be necessary to power this wire during remote start ( I always do just to duplicate everything the key start does ). If you decide to power this wire, here is the wiring ( you will need a 30/40 Amp SPDT Relay and in-line fuse holder w/20 Amp fuse ): Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/22 thin Orange (-) 200mA Accessory Output Relay Pin 30 to van Brown ACC2 wire Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V through 20 Amp fuse
The clicking you hear with a remote start attempt could be the Parking Light relay giving an Error Code. Have you tried running Shutdown Diagnostics ( if the Parking Lights are connected / working you could count the flashes ) ? ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: February 20, 2016 at 5:40 PM
thank you for your help all was good except for the programming which i didn't do.
before programming, i did do another check of the wiring to make sure everything was good and after the programming everything work.
i do have one little problem which is i cant get my parking light to stay on when i remote start. any suggestion?
once again thank you so much.
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Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: February 21, 2016 at 7:58 AM
Which wire are you connected to for the parking lights? Have you gone through the programming menu to ensure it's set to constant while remote started (menu 3 item 12 option 1)?
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Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: February 21, 2016 at 12:27 PM
thank you so much for your help. it turned out that i had a blown fuse.
once again thank you so much for your help. greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: November 04, 2018 at 3:44 PM
hello fellow members once again i am at a lost i thought i had this remote starter installation procedure down but i guess i am still a bonehead if you want to say that.
so here is my problem i am installing a prostart ct-4211tw with dball2 bypass module in my 2003 chevy venture. witkey in the remote start work but without the key its a no start. i tried looking over all the wiring but with no luck i am hoping the pros on here can assist. i have the dball hooked up d2d and w2w.
if you need the connection info i can submit that as well.
Thanks again
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Posted By: eguru
Date Posted: November 05, 2018 at 11:47 AM
Is this the same vehicle that you posted about in 2016? You mentioned different hardware at the time.
Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: November 05, 2018 at 9:20 PM
yes it is the viper remote broke and i couldnt get a replacement one hence the new remote.
so here is the hookup
vehicle remote start
red red
pink yellow
orange orange
yellow purple
red/white red
red/black bcm brown
orange/black bcm green
dball2 remote start
lock brown
unlock green
rear hatch blue
aux 1 blue/white
aux 2 grey/light blue
starter input purple ignition
ignition input yellow ignition
gwr white
tach purple tach (ac)
dball to vehicle
purple/yellow to obdII
red to red/white (ignition)
black to ground
yellow/black keyless data to light green in steering column
without hooking up any accessory on the vehicle the remote start should still work am i right!
thanks for the help
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Posted By: eguru
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 7:42 AM
Do another test.
Try to remote start with the key head pressed against the ignition switch (not inserted).
If it starts, then issue is with the key-sense wiring (LT GN wire in steering column).
Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 8:26 AM
I guess I wasn't too specific about the key the vehicle will only start when the key is in the run position
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Posted By: eguru
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 6:10 PM
johnramphal wrote:
I guess I wasn't too specific about the key the vehicle will only start when the key is in the run position
Then the bypass is not working at all.
Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 6:28 PM
Anything am I missing with the connections that will cause that
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Posted By: eguru
Date Posted: November 07, 2018 at 6:47 AM
If you are using the dball2 from your 2016 install, then I assume that it's wiring is ok.
Where have you connected the 2nd ignition wire (WH)?
Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: November 07, 2018 at 6:51 AM
Nowhere I left it the way it was from the previous install
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Posted By: johnramphal
Date Posted: November 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM
It turned out that the prostart remote starter was defective
Thanks for all the help
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