2003 Chevy Venture, Viper 4204v

hello i have a viper 4204v remote starter and a dball2 bypass module which i am trying to install into a 2003 Chevy venture automatic without any luck. after installing, the power locks works but no start. i hear the internal relay clicking but no signal coming from the starter for remote start. i hooked up my DMM to check the start wire and i can verify that there is no signal there. any help will greatly appreciated.

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jr29_1999

here is my hookup
* car side
ignition 1 *pink
ignition 2 * white
all 12v * red
accessory * orange
starter * yellow
ground * chassis ground
sorry if this was posted before but couldn't find anything

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jr29_1999

Your main ignition wiring looks good.  You should split the Vipers +12V input load between the vehicles Red and
RED / White +12V constant wires instead of just using the only Red wire.  Additionally, H1/1 should be connected
to +12V constant.

The DB-ALL2 should be flashed with 402.GM5 Ver 3.11 firmware for the 2003 Venture.  Did the DB-ALL2 programming
procedure follow the Type 1 programming steps exactly?

You didn't mention if you are going W2W of D2D between the Viper and the DB-ALL2.  Either way, there are a couple
of mandatory hardwire connections.  The Vipers thick Pink IGN1 wire goes to both the van and the DB-ALL2.  Same
for the thick Yellow Starter wire.  This is shown on the Type 1 install diagram.

The Vipers Neutral Safety Switch must be plugged in and set to ON.  In D2D Mode, the van's Parking Brake must be ON
to remote start ( or connect H2/2 to Chassis Ground ).

The Viper must be programmed to Transmission Mode = Automatic, Menu 3, Item 1, Option 2.

If I remember correctly, the Venture had "one-touch" starting.  If that is correct, you can run the Viper with Engine Checking
= Fixed and let the van handle the cranking ( like it normally does ).  That also means the Tach signal and Tach Learn is
not necessary.  See Menu 3, Item 2, Option 3.

While not part of your current problem, there is a Brown ACC2 wire.  It may not be necessary to power this wire during
remote start ( I always do just to duplicate everything the key start does ).  If you decide to power this wire, here is the
wiring ( you will need a 30/40 Amp SPDT Relay and in-line fuse holder w/20 Amp fuse ):
Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/22 thin Orange (-) 200mA Accessory Output
Relay Pin 30 to van Brown ACC2 wire
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V through 20 Amp fuse

The clicking you hear with a remote start attempt could be the Parking Light relay giving an Error Code.  Have you tried
running Shutdown Diagnostics ( if the Parking Lights are connected / working you could count the flashes ) ?

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Soldering is fun!

thank you for your help all was good except for the programming which i didn't do.
before programming, i did do another check of the wiring to make sure everything was good and after the programming everything work.
i do have one little problem which is i cant get my parking light to stay on when i remote start. any suggestion?
once again thank you so much.

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jr29_1999

Which wire are you connected to for the parking lights? Have you gone through the programming menu to ensure it's set to constant while remote started (menu 3 item 12 option 1)?

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My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.

thank you so much for your help. it turned out that i had a blown fuse.
once again thank you so much for your help. greatly appreciated.

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jr29_1999

hello fellow members once again i am at a lost i thought i had this remote starter installation procedure down but i guess i am still a bonehead if you want to say that.
so here is my problem i am installing a prostart ct-4211tw with dball2 bypass module in my 2003 chevy venture. witkey in the remote start work but without the key its a no start. i tried looking over all the wiring but with no luck i am hoping the pros on here can assist. i have the dball hooked up d2d and w2w.
if you need the connection info i can submit that as well.
Thanks again

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jr29_1999

Is this the same vehicle that you posted about in 2016? You mentioned different hardware at the time.

yes it is the viper remote broke and i couldnt get a replacement one hence the new remote.
so here is the hookup
vehicle remote start
red       red
pink      yellow
orange    orange
yellow    purple
red/white red
red/black bcm          brown
orange/black bcm       green

dball2 remote start
lock       brown
unlock     green
rear hatch blue
aux 1      blue/white
aux 2      grey/light blue
starter input             purple ignition
ignition input            yellow ignition
gwr        white
tach       purple tach (ac)

dball      to vehicle
purple/yellow to obdII
red to red/white (ignition)
black to ground
yellow/black keyless data to light green in steering column

without hooking up any accessory on the vehicle the remote start should still work am i right!

thanks for the help


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jr29_1999

Do another test.
Try to remote start with the key head pressed against the ignition switch (not inserted).
If it starts, then issue is with the key-sense wiring (LT GN wire in steering column).

I guess I wasn't too specific about the key the vehicle will only start when the key is in the run position

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jr29_1999

johnramphal wrote:

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I guess I wasn't too specific about the key the vehicle will only start when the key is in the run position

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Then the bypass is not working at all.

Anything am I missing with the connections that will cause that

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jr29_1999

If you are using the dball2 from your 2016 install, then I assume that it's wiring is ok.
Where have you connected the 2nd ignition wire (WH)?

Nowhere I left it the way it was from the previous install

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jr29_1999

It turned out that the prostart remote starter was defective
Thanks for all the help

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jr29_1999