Viper 5101 with DBALL2 for 2012 Tundra

So I have searched and searched without actually finding any information to actually confirm what I need to install my remote start. I am using the Viper 5101 that was pulled (by the installer) from my wife's previous vehicle. It was only installed for about 6 months.

I am using the DBALL2 so that I can wire it up using D2D to eliminate some wires. I have programmed the DBALL2 for my 2012 Tundra with the 80 bit key (G stamped). My question is as follows:

The heavy gauge wire harness lists the connections as such:

H3/1 PINK IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
H3/3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT
H3/4 VIOLET STARTER OUTPUT
H3/5 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT
H3/6 PINK/WHITE IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT 30
H3/7 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX
RELAY
H3/8 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT

I have my harness wired as such ready to install:
H3/1 to the Ignition 1 (Black wire) in the tundra
H3/2, H3/8 and H3/5 wired together to the Tundra 12v output in the fuse box
H3/3 of course to the accessory gray wire on tundra
H3/4 to green starter wire in ignition switch harness
H3/6 to Ignition 2 (Lt green wire in tundra)
H3/7 is not hooked up - N/A

My main question is does this appear correct and do I need any relays or diodes for this install?

I think I am correct, but this is my first install and I don't want to damage anything with incorrect hookups.

If this info is somewhere within the forum already, I apologize. I couldn't locate it. Thanks in advance.

The wiring looks good.  You might want to consider purchasing some quality 18 gauge wire with various colors of insulation.  The actual vehicle ignition wires are thin gauge and connecting the thick 12 gauge wire from the Viper is difficult / awkward.  I typically cut the R/S thick ignition wires around 2" and solder on the thinner gauge wire for the run to the ignition switch harness.  Easier to work with.

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Thanks for the quick reply. I was hoping the wiring looked good to go. I will take your advice for the wiring as far as using smaller 18 awg wires to transition into the Tundra's wiring harnesses.

Again, Thanks and I hope maybe this will help someone else out in my situation.

So I have everything connected, but when I try programming the dBall2, I get the solid red light, hit unlock and it starts flashing orange. I insert the key and it continues to flash orange quickly. Never goes off. As per manual it say "CAN BUS not connected correctly. Proceed to the next step."

Any ideas? Thanks

Is the DB-ALL2 flashed with 402.TL5 Ver 3.05 firmware?

Here is the CAN wire info from iDatalink ( same as DEI ) :
CanHi pin 06     Purple          (DATA)  @ OBDII
CanLo          pin 14      White (DATA)  @ OBDII
These connections should be properly soldered and insulated.

Other than that, can't help too much.  Never used a DB-ALL2 module.  iDatalink ADS AL-CA are my personal choice.

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Flashed correctly?
Using a Master Key?
Recheck wiring connections: 2 Connections at Transponder connector, 2 at the keysense, and 3 at the OBD connector

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I have it wired as such. I will check the connections tomorrow to make sure they are secure. I had to unhook tonight just so I can use the truck tomorrow.

Additionally, my dome light is not working. I haven't checked the fuses yet, but found it odd that is isn't working and the clock seemed to stop in time and then start back up again.

But, thanks for replying and I will double check to make sure all of the connections are tights and secure.

OK, so I had the wires at the transponder wired backwards. Fuse was blown from having the door lock harness into the wrong slot.

However, the truck now starts and stops with the remote. But, I cannot get the doors to lock/unlock with the viper remote. No matter how I wire it.

What do you have the Lock/Unlock wires connected to?

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I believe I found the correct wires, blue plug in driver kick panel, 17 pin. I connected to the red and white wires in that plug.

My starter is the Viper 5101 and has a green and blue wire for the locks (- on way, + the other). I can hear it try to activate the locks, the lights flash, but nothing happens.

https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.aspx

listed as Light Green(-) as Lock, and Pink(-) as Unlock. Type B

https://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?action=select&yr=26305&product=Remote Start&make=Toyota&model=Tundra

Different web site list different wires:
Lock WHITE 17 PIN BLUE PLUG PIN 7
Unlock RED IN DRIVER KICK PIN 6

Have to get the DMM out and test.


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I will just dig into it again sometime. It's starting for now and locking/unlocking with the factory remote. Once I get a free evening I will get the multimeter out and check out what is actually going on.

Thanks again for the help. I will update once I find out what is happening.

Does the truck have the Factory Alarm system?

The different info between Bulldog Security and Ready Remote is that Bulldog is using the key cylinder signal that will also
handle the Factory Alarm system and Ready Remote is using the control button lock and unlock wires.  If the truck has the
Factory Alarm system, use the Light Green and Pink wires.  You will have to program the Viper for a Double Pulse Unlock
output.  Menu 1, Item 5, Option 2.   Here is some more info from DEI on the lock wire :

This wire is only needed if the door locks do not function with the aftermarket system
while the vehicle is running.  All other times just use the factory alarm arm wire.

Here is a photo of the connector :

With the older DEI units and their "push/pull" lock outputs, I would install an in-line 1N4001 diode with the band towards
the Viper on each lock output wire.  This diode will block the un-necessary (+) pulse from reaching the vehicle.  The Green
wire is Lock and the Blue wire is Unlock.

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Thanks for the detailed description and pic. I found the wires that are in the pic, but it still isn't working yet. When I touch the blue wire from the viper to the red wire, it locks the doors just from touching it, same with the white only unlocks. I don't even have to hit any buttons on the remote.

But once they are hooked into the red and white, it still doesn't work with the remote. Are the blue and green wire from the viper the only wires needed for the lock/unlock function to work?

Again, thanks so much for the help!

Did you try the light green and pink as described by Kreg?

Does your Tundra have a factory alarm?

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I did, but to no avail. I haven't been able to mess with it today due to the weather, but I hope to work on it this weekend.

I'm not sure if I have to factory alarm or not. Never checked actually, but I will before I try hooking anything else up.

Maybe you could connect the lock and unlock wires (one at a time) to a relay to test their function. Maybe something got fried being hooked up wrong.

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I've worked a bit more, and I'm almost there. I can get it to unlock by tapping into the white and red wires in the blue 17 pin plug. But, it only unlocks if I unlock the driver door manually or with the factory fob.   Acts as if I have a factory alarm but I'm almost certain I don't.

It won't lock at all no matter how it is wired. I have went through the menu and set it to send only a double pulse on unlock only which it does. I have diodes coming tomorrow as kreg357 suggested, so I will get on soldered into the wires from the viper.

So just to be certain, is the blue and green from the 3 pin viper plug the only wires that need hooked up to make the lock/unlock function? If not, then what other wires do I need to hook up?

I hooked everything up as shown in the dball2 diagram from xpresskits.com for my 2012 Tundra. I used the D2D as well.

Test for a Factory Alarm system by rolling down the drivers window, locking the truck with the inner door lock button
while the door is open, then close the door and wait 1 minute.  Check to see if there is a flashing red light on the
instrument cluster during this period.  If there is, it should slow down when the alarm sets.  Next reach in the open
window and open the door using the inner door handle.  If the horn starts beeping, you have an alarm system.

All you should need is the Vipers' Blue and Green lock wires connected to the correct lock and unlock wires in
the DKP ( no Factory Alarm ) or the Arm and Disarm wires ( with Factory Alarm ).  You can use the (-) Status Output
connected to Keysense to turn off the Factory Alarm during a remote start.

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I finally figured out the door locks. I had to wire the grn/blk and grn/white into the blue and green lock harness. Then wired those into the pink and light green in the kick panel.

I think I have a programming issue though as it unlocks to start, but then doesn't relock once started. So once I figure that out, I should be good to go I think.

I appreciate all of the help from you guys!

Where did the GREEN/ black and GREEN / WHITE wires come from

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They are from the white 18 pin harness on the Remote Start unit (viper 5101). After I went back and looked at the install diagrams on the directechs website it made sense.

Once I wired it this way it worked first time.