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Viper 5806 for enclosed trailer

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 5:57 PM


Topic: Viper 5806 for enclosed trailer

Posted By: p023879
Subject: Viper 5806 for enclosed trailer
Date Posted: March 20, 2016 at 10:10 PM

OK I've searched and cant seem to find an exact answer to this. I want to install a viper 5806 for an enclosed trailer. Trailer already has a 12 volt supply with a solar panel to charge it. Wiring seems fairly basic except for the ignition input. To change any settings you need to cycle the ignition so I'm thinking just a toggle switch from the battery to the pink? wire? Just going to use the shock sensor as I cant imagine anyone breaking in without setting that off but what else needs to be connected for the alarm to work? I'm thinking just power and the ignition input for programming.



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Posted By: davep.
Date Posted: March 21, 2016 at 7:17 AM
It also has to see a door open to program. So use a double pole switch and use one pole for ignition, the other to ground the (-) door trigger.

You could use magnetic switches on the doors for additional protection from a door being forced open that doesn't set off the shock sensor.




Posted By: p023879
Date Posted: March 22, 2016 at 6:30 PM
So just to confirm, it is the pink wire on the remote starter plug that is used for the ignition input? Nothing else needed for connections except power and ground?




Posted By: dairyboy3
Date Posted: March 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM
Yes the pink wire is ignition input on the heavy gauge remote start harness. Hook that up to a switch with the positive door trigger input (small gauge violet wire) in case you need to do any programming.




Posted By: p023879
Date Posted: March 31, 2016 at 7:14 PM
OK it seems that I got everything hooked up and working. Biggest problem is the range. Seems to only work about 100 yards away instead of the advertised 1 mile. I mounted the antenna inside on the roof but I'm thinking an enclosed aluminum trailer is just blocking the signal. Is there any way of boosting the signal? I was thinking of extending the antenna wire and placing it in the plastic roof vent but will that help?




Posted By: mcnugget
Date Posted: March 31, 2016 at 7:38 PM
p023879 wrote:

OK it seems that I got everything hooked up and working. Biggest problem is the range. Seems to only work about 100 yards away instead of the advertised 1 mile. I mounted the antenna inside on the roof but I'm thinking an enclosed aluminum trailer is just blocking the signal. Is there any way of boosting the signal? I was thinking of extending the antenna wire and placing it in the plastic roof vent but will that help?


I'm not exactly sure for the 5806 but the 5900 with the same 1 Mile remote, you can disable frequency hopping. That increases the range. Otherwise, you could cut off the plug for the remote wire on either end and wire it to a coaxial connector and run thin coax up to the antenna. Coax is going to give you a cleaner signal and increase the distance you can run it. Either way, you have to get that antenna outside. If you knew how, you could also wire on a different antenna completely.




Posted By: p023879
Date Posted: March 31, 2016 at 8:09 PM
Ok and how would I use coax? The antenna is part of the valet module and has 5 wires. Is there a specific wire that is just the antenna? I'll add a small cell phone of whip antenna outside if it's possible.




Posted By: racerjames76
Date Posted: April 01, 2016 at 12:04 PM
I would bet the aluminum is acting as a faraday cage. Blocking the RF signals. We have put outdoor boxes on the front of trailers before for similar purposes. Mount it with a gasket and then mount the antenna outside the trailer inside the plastic box. Could find something similar to mount on the roof too..

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Posted By: mcnugget
Date Posted: April 01, 2016 at 3:07 PM
p023879 wrote:

Ok and how would I use coax? The antenna is part of the valet module and has 5 wires. Is there a specific wire that is just the antenna? I'll add a small cell phone of whip antenna outside if it's possible.


You've got your valet and status LED on the antenna but they still have separate plugs. It should still be a 2 pin plug for the antenna. You could connect it to something like this:
https://www.americanradiosupply.com/bnc-to-dual-twin-binding-post-adapter/
Then run a coax the distance you need and get an antenna that has a coax connector on it. The coax cable will give you a higher signal to noise ratio and allow you to run greater distance than just copper wire.




Posted By: p023879
Date Posted: April 01, 2016 at 3:38 PM
Nope. Single 6 pin plug for everythingposted_image




Posted By: mcnugget
Date Posted: April 01, 2016 at 6:10 PM
Well that might be harder, but it's still possible. You'd just have to get a pinout to determine which two are for the antenna and break out those wires. Anyway, I don't think you need to do that. You just need to get the antenna outside




Posted By: p023879
Date Posted: April 01, 2016 at 7:43 PM
That can't go outside as it's the valet switch also and not weatherproof.




Posted By: mcnugget
Date Posted: April 01, 2016 at 7:47 PM
I'm well aware that you can't put that antenna outside. You know what you need to do and you know how to do it. Good luck.





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