How to Create a Ground While armed?
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=141680
Printed Date: May 04, 2025 at 4:13 PM
Topic: How to Create a Ground While armed?
Posted By: george20000
Subject: How to Create a Ground While armed?
Date Posted: September 03, 2016 at 4:34 PM
I have Alarm with out Ground-While-Armed. How to Create a Ground-While-Armed? My car is Citroeb Xsara 1999
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Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 03, 2016 at 5:52 PM
Using the (-) unlock output from alarm to Pin 1, (-) lock to Pin 6, (+)12v constant to Pin 7, Pin 5 to Ground and Pin 3 to (-) output. This relay uses no power to maintain connection.
Dual Coil Latching Relay Part #ADW1212TW
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 12:58 AM
Here's one he can buy in Europe old diagram for a different purpose, an old Clifford Solaris from the mid 90's with only one aux so I had trunk release on disarm and headlights when armed. Use lock and unlock outputs branch off alarm's lock unlock with diode separation. 9A9_latch.bmp
RS Components or Farnell. ------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 1:08 AM
Here's the part number:- G6CK-1114P-US
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 1:49 AM
@howie II you part number is a 5v coil, It should still work but wouldn't a 12v coil Omron G6CK-2114P-US or a G6CK-1117P-US-DC12 be a better choice?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 4:26 AM
It's 12, I'm looking at the etched details on one right now!
Meanwhile AFAIK all the above are applicable.
1114P = SPCO
2114P = DPCO
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 4:33 AM
The most popular google results come up for the 5v coil.
Unless you add the -dc12 to the end of you part number. Then the 12v coil shows up.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 5:20 AM
OK now trying to sort a battery for grandson's Note 4.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 7:19 AM
Thanks for the answers but where to find this relay?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 8:07 AM
Look at my first post.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 1:45 PM
can anyone send me a link of this relay? 
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 1:48 PM
george20000 wrote:
can anyone send me a link of this relay and a diagram for simple relay?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 2:17 PM
We've already given you all the relevant information, part numbers, sources etc.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 4:29 PM
A latching relay setup with simple relays are already on this site in the relay section. But are not non draw , ie they require voltage to maintain the connection that can drain the battery over time.
If you GOOGLE the part numbers ADW1212TW, G6CK-2114P-US-DC12, and G6CK-1117P-US-DC12 you will get all the links you want.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 7:11 PM
This relay can work?
https://www./itm/OMRON-MY2K-DC12-Dual-Coil-Latching-Relay-10Pin-DPDT-12V-/381020934133
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 8:38 PM
Yes it can but requires extra wiring for the +12v externally as the listed that we posted are internally connected. Also don't need all the extra connections for what you are using it for.
This is avaiable also and is cheaper. ADW1212TW
https://gr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic-Industrial-Devices/ADW1212TW/?qs=RQeBXKCqX76WC9yMYwHr2A%3D%3D
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 9:50 PM
How pin have this relay?can you send me a diagram?
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 04, 2016 at 11:12 PM
Which relay are you wanting a diagram for?
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 1:50 AM
Diagram for your posted relay MYK2-DC12
You will need to use diodes to keep vehicle manual power lock/unlock from effecting the relay with band towards alarm and relay.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 8:16 AM
How pin have this relay?a diagram for this?
https://gr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic-Industrial-Devices/ADW1212TW/?qs=RQeBXKCqX76WC9yMYwHr2A%3D%3D
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 6:13 PM
ADW1212TW Latching Relay for adding a GWA.
This should be right if not and it works in reverse just swap the lock an unlock wires.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 6:31 PM
Thank you all for your answers?A last question.how pin have this relay?
Thanks so much
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 6:48 PM
george20000 wrote:
Thank you all for your answers?A last question.how pin have this relay?
Thanks so much
If you are asking how many pins does the relay have it is a 5 pin Relay. The circles are the pins in the diagram.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 6:55 PM
Thanks for the answers guys.
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 05, 2016 at 11:53 PM
Your welcome
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 06, 2016 at 9:30 PM
I need any diode?Because when I lock the doors without alarm I have a standard - ?
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 07, 2016 at 2:06 AM
If you don't want the locking of doors without alarm to effect the GWA output.
Then yes connect diodes (band side towards vehicle),to vehicle lock and unlock wires, and connect alarm and GWA wires to other side.
Posted By: george20000
Date Posted: September 07, 2016 at 4:23 AM
OK thanks
Posted By: lurch228
Date Posted: September 07, 2016 at 9:01 AM
Correction the diodes need to be band towards the alarm and GWA relay to block negative from non alarm lock so only alarm can change GWA relay.
Sorry for any confusion.
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