Remote start, 2016 Mustang, manual transmission

I know I know - it's a huge steaming can of worms. But I really miss my combo remstart + alarm, and I want it back.

The new car is a 2016 Mustang with MT...and based upon my research, the tech exists to install a system that will require a few specific pre-exit steps in order to safely arm the system AND prep the car for remstarting. And I'm okay with that. But my local installer says he cannot source the necessary module(s).

Can anyone tell me what is needed, please?

some remote starters have specific wiring to install in a manual transmission, most lower end starters dont have these wires. you would need an alarm with a neutral safety wire that must be properly installed to make sure the remote starter cant activate if the car is not in neutral. you will also need to bypass the clutch switch so that the car thinks that the clutch is engaged. and the alarm itself will need to be programmed for being installed on a manual transmission. i think some starters even need the E brake wire to be installed too. i havent installed one in a few years so i dont really have recommendations for which remote starter to get but i know they exist

Thanks for answering. Yes - they exist, and I know because there are videos online of the steps needed to double-failsafe the car before walking away. I understand what you've said, but what I need is a manufacturer's p/n...and -- hopefully -- the number of the add-on device (the component that goes into the car in addition to the alarm brain itself)

I could be wrong, but in 10 minutes of searching I’ve been unable to find either a complete RS wiring guide or a transponder bypass compatible with the ‘16 Mustang so I don’t think you’ll be having much luck for the time being. *Assuming* the ignition could be bypassed the old way (second key in a box... something something... coil of wire), you’d still have the huge task of identifying every necessary wire on your own. That would likely be a daunting task even for an experienced installer, nevermind a first time installer (which I’m assuming is you).

I know it sucks, but at this point your best bet is just to wait for one of the integration companies to divine a bypass solution for your car. By that time, there will no doubt be a complete wiring guide available and the bypass guide sometimes has important information regarding installs in stick shifts anyways. When the time comes, I’d recommend going with a Compustar system; their 7000 controller comes with everything you need for an alarm and/or a manual car (except a bypass and remote kit) and their remotes are great and easy to upgrade later on. With that said, if this is your first install, I’d recommend having it done professionally; I’ve done several cars and more than my fair share of research and I still wouldn’t be comfortable attempting a MT install.

Thank you! Very thoughtful and informative!

I did/do not intend to install it myself. I'd be leery even on a AT, but on a MT - no way.

I know a way to obtain the wiring schematic for this car without difficulty, so that's not an issue, but yes - it's the bypass (is that the correct term for the device that is not the alarm brain?) that seems unavailable.

And I think you're right - I'm gonna have to be patient. Likely (hopefully) one of the big players in the field will release the device that I require.

AT installs aren’t bad if you have good information, know how to test circuits and take your time. All depends on your comfort level; don’t want to be half way into an install and find out you’re way over your head.

Yes, a bypass module is what allows the car to start without the chip/tansponder key in the ignition (whereas, at a basic level, a remote starter can be thought of as what allows the car to start without *turning* the key). Some of them can do other stuff like door locks, factory arm/disarm, door status, and tach through the vehicle’s data bus (full integration modules). If you ever want to check to see if a bypass/integration module exists for your car, check idatalink.com and fortin.ca. You’ll notice that currently idatalink’s lookup tool doesn’t acknowledge the existence of the 2016 mustang while fortin’s results say “no solution”. At some point in the (hopefully near) future, idatalink should have a solution for their ALCA and Blade AL modules and fortin should have one for their evo-all; keep an eye out for those products specifically as some of the others they list will probably be bypass/RS combo units (generally more expensive).

yea wow they really dont make a bypass for that mustang yet... so yea you will definitely have to wait on this one. there IS technically a way to work around it but its not something id ever recommend doing to a new car

Astonishing! The car's been out for three years and nothing?!! That's annoying!

Thank you very much, gentlemen - I will pop into those website from time2time and run a search.

Cheers!

Update:
Neither of the suggested websites has delivered a solution that is applicable to my car.

Checked both website again - STILL no joy. Any fresh ideas, gentlemen? Any first-hand experience?

171004:
Guess what? Nothing - that's what! Come on, bypass builders!

Yes DEI at least but definitely Auto only!


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

usually October is the cut off point with new car updates for bypass module. You probably wont see anything till next February or March at the earliest. I'm kinda surprised dei at least doesn't have one for that car with having auto only one. I guessing it pts. I'm in the same boat, waiting on a 17 Hyundai voloster bypass.

All companies follow an OEM type install on the Ford Mustang, meaning, you are basically installing a starter using OEM configurations. Unfortunately there is no OEM remote start solution for a manual transmission Mustang.

There are ways to do this vehicle but it requires you to sacrifice a key since transponder bypass does not exist.

Well...I would be quite willing to sacrifice a key...but the issue seems to be the 'is-it-in-neutral' [safety] factor. (more to come)

So run with manual transmission reservation mode, hardwire and a 556U.
Or go Digital via a DB-ALL2/3 use the auto guide for wiring info and either key wrap or a 556U.


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Thank you! I’ll not pretend that I follow that exactly, but otoh I am not an installer. And I will most assuredly be hiring a pro to do this when the time comes.

That said, would you be willing to elaborate somewhat so that I understand more clear? Please?

Are you for real, I'm 71 years of age, not enough time left to explain but here goes.
Buy an R/S unit that's MT compatible, add a DB-ALL2/3 etc.
Use it in manual reservation mode.
The only real difference might be a relay etc. or grounding wire for the clutch switch.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Thank you - I appreciate it. I’m 59, if that makes you feel any better! :) But I’m not shy about asking for help, nor do I believe that I’ve stopped learning yet!
Cheers!