2012 Toyota 4Runner Limited, alarm wiring

I am looking into installing a remote start ( Evo-All) on a 2012 T4R Limited - Pusht-To-Start ( PTS). Found some wiring info at https://www.commandocaralarms.com/wiring/2010-2012/toyota/4-runner/1948.html and was hoping someone can confirm not only the wiring but also the location of the plugs. For instance, I am not certain which one is the 7-pin ignition plug. There is also a 48 -pin plug on the driver kick panel I couldn't identify. I have attached actual pics for wiring at steering wheel, kick panel and ECU body ( driver side). All connectors in PIC 1,2,3 are labeled for easy reference ( Pic 1, Connector 2= ....)
I have also attached the wiring available in Evo-All guide and ... wires are not matching with diagram mentioned above. :(

Thanks in advance!
Lee

I thought it might help to have the wiring diagram labeled for easy reference. Below is the wiring chart from site listed above. I am hoping someone could at least provide PartID & PicNo-ConnectorNo match for IGNITION and STARTER wires. Once I get the info I will update the diagram column "PicNo-ConnectorID" and repost.

Thanks again!

Don't over think anything, the vehicle is started through data. All necessary wiring information is in the fortin installation guide. No other wires are needed aside from 12V and GROUND. Just because commandowiring is naming wires, does not mean you need them.

2012-T4R-PTS Pic2 : Number 3 connector has the (-)steering lock + (+)ignition sense
2012-T4R-PTS Pic3 : Number 3 connector Rx , Tx , and (-)Parking Lights

Thanks for taking the time to reply! I have looked at Fortin's diagrams ( included both below) there is one ( 29991) for Remote Start install only and another one for Alarm +Remote start (16221). The only reason I am looking at Alarm + Remote start is because I'd like to add sensors ( shock and glass). I'll be adding an RF KIT ( AXX-RF2) too . Evo-All comes with 48 hr access to WireColor diagrams but they are not for my car ( all wires are shown/listed as being on passenger side behind glove compartment)..WireColors' concept is great but info is not accurate so...it's useless.
While I understand that I won't be needing all wires ( like it used to be for older cars) , it does help to confirm you have identified the connectors correctly :)

It looks like for Alarm +Remote Start I will need to tap into ignition and use a relay on the starter : another wire to ID as it is not shown on Fortin's diagrams. Maybe it is not needed because the smart key is required?

I searched online trying to ID the connectors and I am including a pic with all connectors. It would help if you ( someone) could confirm the info matches my car ( 2012 T4R LTD, PTS,NAV)

Thanks again!

1) Set your EVO-ALL options.
---> A-A11 ON
---> C1 ON
---> D1 ON (this makes the EVO-ALL a remote starter)
---> G ON (this is to turn on the EVO-ALARM feature)
---> H2 ON (this is to allow the Fortin RF-Kit to program to the EVO)

2) Follow the remote starter installation guide. (guide 29991)

3) Program the EVO to the vehicle as per guide 29991.

4) Connect and program the RF-KIT to the EVO-ALL (rf-kit programming guide)

5) Connect your sensors to where it says to in the Alarm guide. (16221) The PURPLE / White on the EVO is a dual-stage sensor input once the Alarm feature is enabled (option G)

Thanks for the detailed info! What about the diagram posted on top of Evo guides? Is it correct? :)

The alarm guide covers ONLY alarm. It should be used ONLY to indicate what the outputs on the 20-pin connector will be once the alarm feature is enabled in the EVO. Minimal connection would be the HORN output. The rest is optional.

I wouldn't suggest doing a starter wire interrupt (starter-kill) in a push to start vehicle unless extremely familiar with the vehicles starting system. You need the smart key to start the car anyway.

So really, the only thing of importance to you in the ALARM guide is the horn output and the dual-stage sensor input (PURPLE / white wire). The rest of the installation is per the REMOTE STARTER installation guide.

I got it! It makes perfect sense not to need the starter kill option for a PTS vehicles.

BTW, here is how I understood the system will work:

Option A: Evo-All configured as Remote Start only ( OEM alarm =ON): OEM remote will function like before Evo install and it will allow me to do RemoteStart (3xlock) . With Fortin/Evo remotes (2 way RF KIT) will be able to do the same thing + provide extended range and status update (2 way).

Option B: Evo-All configured for Alarm + Remote Start ( OEM alarm will be OFF) : not sure if the OEM remote will work for locking /unlocking or will I always need the Fortin/Evo remote to lock/unlock and remote start car?

I understand that, for both options, I still need to carry the OEM remote in order to start 2 drive the vehicle ( OEM remote not needed for remote start)

Would you please confirm I got this right?

Thanks!

If the vehicle has an OEM alarm, it will NOT be disabled. Even if the EVO-ALARM is ON, the OEM alarm is untouched. Aftermarket systems are in parallel with OEM systems.

The OEM remote needs to stay on you at all times. Just like normal.
The OEM remote retains all current features PLUS you will get two extra benefits now that you added an EVO-ALL.
1. You can remote start your car with the OEM remote (3x lock)
2. You can control the aftermarket alarm with the RF-Kit and the OEM remote.

The RF-KIT will also control everything as well (but at MUCH more range). OEM alarm, aftermarket alarm, aftermarket starter

Your options listed are pretty close.
Option 1: EVO-ALL as remote starter (controlled by either RF-KIT, OEM remote or both)
Option 2: EVO-ALL as Remote starter & Alarm (controlled by either RF-KIT, OEM remote or both)

Thank you!

Last night I verified wires and all looks good ( updated diagram for this vehicle is attached).

It looks like the Evo-All will power up from the OBDII wire(16). I guess I can power up the 2-way RF kit from the same wire, but I still need another permanent 12V to tap into for powering up the siren, glass and shock sensor. Not doing this every day, I don't know the best practices and I hope to get some advice. Thanks!

You need to know total current draw of the added aftermarket parts and find an appropriate power source in the vehicle that the fuse wouldn't blow everytime the siren chirps.

EVO is barely 1 amp when in use. (7 mA when in sleep mode)
Siren will pull about 2 Amps Max (for 20 Watt sirens)
The sensors pull barely anything in terms of current draw.

The vehicles 12V at the OBD is most likely fused at something between 5-10 Amps.

OBD2 12V should be more than sufficient to power up everything but I would personally suggest a completely different power source for the siren. Like the big white wire at the fuse box or run your wire to the battery. Just add a fuse to your own wire, 5 Amps should be more than enough.

Got it! Thanks for the explanation... it really helps when you understand the reasoning behind doing things !

By the way, last night I opened the hood looking for the right place to install the hood pin switch and the siren ( Directed 514N)... Well, the metal "flange" on both sides of the hood ( where the hood pin would get mounted) is all insulated ( rubber seal) and I can't see a way to install a hood pin switch without removing at least some of the rubber seal... Maybe using a Mercury tilt switch ? Any suggestions or tricks for installing the hood pin and siren are gratefully appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Glad to be of help!

Mercury switch is the better option (as long as they are legal in your locality). The regular hood switches will corrode extremely fast unless you give them a good coat of grease or something. Note that if your vehicle already has a factory hood-switch, you do not need to add one.

I would take a look at the pictorials part of this forum. There's got be a few posts in there showing how someone else did there under hood work. Different cars, same principals.

I've checked for a factory hood switch by arming alarm ( from inside car) and pulling the hood handle to open hood: it didn't trigger an alarm so I concluded that no factory switch was installed. If there is another way to check, please let me know.

Thanks again!

Something else: I suspect there is a siren installed for the factory alarm ( siren-like   chirps ) . I looked under the hood but can't locate it..Noise comes from the driver's side, under the brake piston.... Would it be possible to tap into that wire or, since OEM alarm will be active, it   needs a dedicated siren and should not be messed with ? Thanks!

Chances are you do have a factory hood switch if your vehicle is equipped with the factory alarm.
After locking the doors with the factory remote, wait. Wait about 1 minute. Then, open the hood from the inside without ever unlocking the doors.

And yes.... ideally add another siren. Although tapping into the factory siren will not harm anything. It may just sound/chirp weirdly when both alarms get triggered.

You might be right.... I don't remember waiting a while before opening the hood ...I'll give it a try again.

By looking at it it looks like the the BLACK wire for the hood switch is at connector F9 which is the 30 pin connector I am looking at for the BTX,BRX & Parking lights. Is this correct?
If so, than siren trigger wire ( RED) is at F8 ...Which one would be F8 ? Above F9? :)

I love the diagram! :) BTW, What will it take to get a DIAGRAM like that for entire car?

Something else: I used to own a 2007 Nissan Quest and managed to get a full service manual as a set of PDF-s ( still have it but don't have the car :) ) Is there a similar manual for the T4R?


Thanks!

"I love the diagram! :) BTW, What will it take to get a DIAGRAM like that for entire car?"
--- OEM wiring from https://alldatapro.com/. There's a cost to diagrams like those.

Nissan BCS pdf I have seen a lot of people with it. Not sure for Toyota if something similar is available.

If the vehicle is equipped with a factory hood-switch, the EVO will detect its status (hood open or hood closed) through the CAN-BUS. No extra wiring needed.

I'll take a look at the site. Thanks again!

I can confirm factory hood switch is installed ( opening hood about 1 minute after arming, did trigger the OEM alarm). It was good not having to install a hood switch, but not having to tap into a wire ( because it detects it through CAN-BUS) it's even better! Thanks again!

Excellent!

I've put together a sensor wiring diagram and wondering if it looks OK.
BTW, I'm not sure how the Warn Away feature will work so I decided to make it easy to disable..just in case.. What do you think? Any suggestions? Thanks!

warn-away will just work on its own.
Dual stage shock sensors check for impact and generate a pulse for X amount of seconds depending on the sensitivity you can adjust the shock sensor for (if it has little sensitivity adjust screws).
-- any pulse of less than 0.5s on the green will trigger warn away (3 chirps off the alarm to warn away people)
-- any pulse longer than 1s on the blue wire triggers full alarm (alarm gets triggered and rings)

The PURPLE / white wire on the EVO checks for pulse length.

Follow the diagram you did and it will work just fine.      

Thank you! Thank you!

I've done the install! It took me a while (~ 8 hours) but at the end both the alarm and remote start are working as expected.
The shock sensor doesn't do that well...you have to hit the car quite heavy to get it to chirp/warn you. I remember seeing a sensor with adjustments (mine doesn't have) and also with proximity warning ... I've used some sensors I happen to have handy ( G-100 Glass Sensor and DEI 504D shock sensor) and I think the shock sensor could use an upgrade. :) Can you recommend a good sensor ( good price/feature balance, not the most expensive)? It would be nice to have proximity warning .... if practical to look for this feature.

Thanks again!

The DEI shock sensor is adjustable but most likely from a DEI remote start/alarm brain if no adjustment screws are there.

Fortin has one, the FSS https://fortin.ca/en/products/accessories/fss/

Your current glass sensor should be fine.

I looked for FSS: nothing on ebay or amazon. Couldn't find any specs/features nor was I able to find a site selling it... not even Fortin's site. I didn't see an adjustment on it ...maybe it is done through Fortin remote? Thanks!

The fortin sensor has some adjustable screws on there but may be a little hard to find.

heres one (not sure brand) https://mypushcart.mybigcommerce.com/vehicle-safety-security/sensors-sirens-accessories/

I looked and the only sensor shown doesn't look like FSS   https://mypushcart.mybigcommerce.com/dual-stage-shock-sensor-for-car-alarms/

It's ok. Maybe I should leave it the way it is :)

Thanks again!

you dont want your alarm to ring whenever a big truck passes by anyway!

Can still install the tilt sensor though. It might (hopefully not) prove itself worthy one day.

To be honest I looked at the Compustar DAS 2shock & tilt sensor but Fortin told me it is not going to work with Evo-All. What tilt sensor do you recommend and where does it get mounted ( cabin or engine compartment)?

Found DEI 507M tilt sensor. Here are the questions:

1-how do I connect it to Evo-All? I suspect I will use the same wire I used for the glass sensor [ A2/Purple = External Trigger (-) ] but wanted to make sure I just tap into the same wire

2- The 507M requires a "ground-when-armed" wire ( https://www.falcon.ro/files/home/01.Securitate_si_confort_auto/03.Module_optionale_securitate/Directed507M/Directed507M_manual_EN.pdf ) wondering what wire would that be on EvoAll?

3- Happen to have an URL for a PDF/JPG showing purpose for all Evo-One wires? In the tutorials I have they only show the ones you need and you don't even have the option to look at a complete diagram.

Thanks!

Found answer one of the questions:

1-?
2-The white starter kill output would be the ground-when-armed output you need.
3-?
4- I need a true 2-way RF kit so I know when the alarm was triggered. That's the only reason I got the 2-way RF kit for Evo-All. Just learned that none of the Fortin kits does this. Do you know a RF kit that will work with Fortin Evo-All?

Thanks!