AC not turning on with remote start, '11 Kia Forte
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=143409
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 8:10 AM
Topic: AC not turning on with remote start, '11 Kia Forte
Posted By: k9cuevas
Subject: AC not turning on with remote start, '11 Kia Forte
Date Posted: July 27, 2017 at 6:18 PM
Hi,
I just installed a Directed Electronics (Viper) 4105V remote start and keyless entry. I followed the install instructions and I also had the wiring diagram for my specific vehicle. Everything works perfect as far as starting and shutting off, lock and unlocks, and trunk release. The issue I am having is when I remote start the vehicle the air conditioner or heater does not turn on. I replaced an existing remote starter that went bad and it all worked before it went bad. Has anyone else had this issue? What do I need to do? Thanks in advance.
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Orlando C.
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Posted By: k9cuevas
Date Posted: July 27, 2017 at 6:19 PM
I have a 2011 Kia Forte
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Orlando C.
Posted By: lectricguy
Date Posted: July 27, 2017 at 8:21 PM
Check the presence of 12V on these wires when running under remote start:
ACCESSORY/HEATER BLOWER 1 ORANGE (+) NOTE #3 @ IGNITION SWITCH, (BLACK, 6-PIN PLUG), PIN 3
ACCESSORY/HEATER BLOWER 2 YELLOW (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH, (BLACK, 6-PIN PLUG), PIN 4
NOTE #3: this wire may need to be RELAY ISOLATED to prevent STARTER GRIND upon Key Take Over.
On the 2010-2011 The orange wire Acc 1 wire needs to be opened using a relay using the GWR wire during remote start to avoid starter grind on key take over. Was this hooked up on the old remote start, and did you miss connecting up this relay when you replaced the old unit? Could be that the relay is there, just open, not allowing the ACC1 wire to be powered....
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Lectric Guy
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: July 27, 2017 at 8:24 PM
Can you list your wiring so we can get a better picture of what's going on.
Also check out the pictorial I made and compare your wiring to it.
Sounds like you missed a wire.
Kia Forte pictorial ------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: k9cuevas
Date Posted: July 27, 2017 at 8:56 PM
There was a relay that was wired into the previous remote start. I kept it in and wired the remote start accy 2 wire to that. I will double check power there tomorrow. All the wires are connected per the instructions. Thanks and I will let you know if I find anything there.
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Orlando C.
Posted By: k9cuevas
Date Posted: July 27, 2017 at 8:58 PM
I'll post the wiring as well. I'll take a pic of the vehicle diagram as well as the installation diagrams.
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Orlando C.
Posted By: k9cuevas
Date Posted: July 28, 2017 at 10:59 AM
Ok so I tested the wires and retraced all my connections. I have pulled the relay out and hooked it up direct with out the relay in line and everything works as it should. I am not confident in the way everything was hooked up before as they eliminated some wires as well as tied some together to one point versus putting them where they needed to be. Since I ripped everything out and started from scratch I am confident that the wires are where they need to be.
I will need to buy a new relay and put it back in due to the starter grind on key take over. Can someone send me a diagram on how to hook this relay up correctly or at least send me which wires go to what.
Thanks again for all your time and help.
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Orlando C.
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: July 29, 2017 at 5:04 AM
Wire the relay like this
86 to ingition
85 to Ground when running from remote start should be (blue/white on your system)
87A to one side of cut acc wire
30 to the other side of cut acc wire
Diode across terminals 86 and 85 band facing 86
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If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
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