Problems with Viper 5706v and Jeep 2003 Liberty

Hello all,

I am attempting to install a 5706v in a 2003 Jeep Liberty.

Here is what I have done so far:

Jeep 2003 Liberty
- confirmed it does not require an additional security bypass module (black key - no remote built into key fob)
- wiring colors - consistent between two diagrams I have found
- 12v constant = red or pink/black
- starter wire = yellow
- parking light = lt green/orange
- wiring diagram 1
- ignition = dark blue
- accessory = black/orange
- 2nd acces = black/white
- wiring diagram 2
- ignition = red/blue
- second ignition = black/orange
- accessory wire = black/white

Remote start error
- hit start and it generates and error with 7 flashes (this usually mean that Manual Transmission mode is active)
- have set it to automatic by the following procedure
   - key on/ then off
   - hold valet button until 3 flashes/beeps happen
   - hit valet button once and hold - flashes 1 time
   - press unlock on remote - flashes twice
   - turn key on and off

After doing this I still get the 7 flashes error code
Attempted the following:
- grounded the door input (green - pin 15) and standard door input (violet - pin 18)
- repeat above process several times

When I go to start it just returns error and the 7 flashes every time.

I have verified power on the following pins:
Main Harness (6 pin unit)
1 - +12V
2 - proper ground
3 - to plus side of siren (chirps correctly during programming)
4,5,6 - not using (listening to the relay chirps when it is supposed to be flashing)

Remote Start - 10 pin heavy gauge
1 - nothing
2 - +12v
3 - open (have tried using these to no avail)
4 - open (same here)
5 - +12v
6 - green goes to key side of starter wire (yellow wire)
7 - violet goes to starter side of starter wire (yellow wire)
8 - no connection (have tried connecting it to accessory wire)
9 - +12V
10 - Pink to Dark Blue and to red/blue - nothing on either

When I hit start on the remote there is no voltage on the violet OR the PINK wires at all.

Is it possible to have a bad unit?

Any help here would be appreciated!
Rich

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Richard

Programming the Viper over to Auto Trans can be problematic. Timing and sequence is critical. Keep trying.

Here is the ignition wiring :

Remote Start, 10-pin heavy gauge connector
1 NC No Connection
2 RED/BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACC/STARTER INPUT        Pink/Black
3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A FLEX RELAY    not used
4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT     Black/White @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT Red @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE) Yellow @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)              Yellow @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT        Black/Orange @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
9 RED/WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY   Pink/Black @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT Red/Blue @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Some wires are needed on the 24 Pin harness :
Pin 9 Hood Pin    necessary safety feature. use Viper hood pin
Pin 12 Tach to green/orange or orange/green   @ ign coil, coil pac or injector
Pin 13 Neutral Safety    to Chassis Ground if Auto Trans
Pin 20 to Brake White/tan (+)  @ brake pedal switch

You will need a relay and a 1k ohm resistor to get the Parking Lights. Set the Viper to (+) and follow the diagram
on the left :
https://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/14301_LIBERTY_JEEP%20LIBERTY%20PARKING%20LIGHT%20DIAGRAM.pdf



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Soldering is fun!

For Program Mode Entry, only ground the Green wire at pin 15.

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Did it come with a togle switch

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abethebue

No toggle switch with it, very easy to add.

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Richard

Its a safty feature for the remote start

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abethebue

Many thanks kreg357!!!

Your wiring tips helped me get it up and going! You are right, programming the viper can be a real pain!

I got the lights up and going (using the relay and the diagram you sent me).

Now the last thing is the door lock and unlock. It say it needs a 1400 ohm resistor for unlock and a 400 (approximately) ohm resist for the unlock.

A couple more questions.

1. Does this system need two more relays? One for lock and one for unlock.
2. What is the wiring diagram for the lock and unlock circuits? Do you have ones like the parking lights?
    It says the unlock and lock circuits are 500ma outputs. Are they providing ground at 500ma or +12v @ 500ma?
3, Finally, what is the programming so that the doors lock and unlock correctly?

Once again, thanks for all your help so far, I think I am about 75% of the way!

Rich

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Richard

The easiest way to do the door locks is with a Directed 451M Door Lock Module. It is a nice compact package that is basically two relays.
A few nice features are the fact that it has a 3 Pin plug that connects directly to the Vipers' 3 Pin Door Lock connector and it includes
the necessary resistors. It goes for under $10. There is a 451M Install Guide in the Downloads section. You will follow the Type H Diagram
using the correct value resistors and connect to the Jeeps PINK/PURPLE wire at the BLACK PLUG AT BACK OF FUSEBOX.

If you have two relays plus a 425 & a 1,400 resistor and want to do it that way, here is the diagram :
https://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/14301_LIBERTY_JEEP%20LIBERTY%20%201%20WIRE%20JBS%20UNITS.pdf
For your Viper, follow the top diagram. Various sites give different resistor values. For Lock 1,400 to 1,425 is listed and for Unlock
425 to 470 is shown. No special Viper programming is required. The default single pulse and standard output time is OK. Additionally,
to protect the Viper from relay coil collapse pulses, a 1N4007 diode should be added between relay pins 85 and 86 on both relays. The
diagram above does not follow the typical relay pin layout diagram. The labels for Pins 85 and 86 are reversed. The diodes band should
be towards the (+) terminal pin of the relays coil ( pins 85 and 86 ).

Last but not least, does your Jeep have the Factory Alarm? Is yes, you will need an additional relay and resistor to handle that.

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Soldering is fun!

Many thanks kreg357!!!

Your wiring tips helped me get it up and going! You are right, programming the viper can be a real pain!

I got the lights up and going (using the relay and the diagram you sent me).

Now the last thing is the door lock and unlock. It say it needs a 1400 ohm resistor for unlock and a 400 (approximately) ohm resist for the unlock.

A couple more questions.

1. Does this system need two more relays? One for lock and one for unlock.
2. What is the wiring diagram for the lock and unlock circuits? Do you have ones like the parking lights?
    It says the unlock and lock circuits are 500ma outputs. Are they providing ground at 500ma or +12v @ 500ma?
3, Finally, what is the programming so that the doors lock and unlock correctly?

Once again, thanks for all your help so far, I think I am about 75% of the way!

Rich
Richard


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Richard

THanks for the additional help - I have ordered the module and as soon as it comes in I hope to finish it.

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Richard

Should go smoothly.      Good luck!

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