2017 Tundra G-Key Viper 5706v DBALL2
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=143592
Printed Date: April 19, 2024 at 10:13 AM
Topic: 2017 Tundra G-Key Viper 5706v DBALL2
Posted By: 35chaser
Subject: 2017 Tundra G-Key Viper 5706v DBALL2
Date Posted: October 03, 2017 at 8:57 PM
Hi all,
I just did my 2017 tundra security remote starter install today. Everything worked great, I didn't realize the dball2 does not provide factory disarm. My factory alarm went off when I remote started. Anyone know where I can find that wire? Also, the Toyota vehicle has a nice oem lock and unlock chirp. Is it possible to tie into that wire? or do I have to use the viper siren? I don't want the loud horn honk as my chirp. Is there any other way?
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 04, 2017 at 7:44 AM
While I'm not a big Viper user and don't use DB-ALL's, according to the TL7 Install Guide, the DB-ALL2 should
control the Factory Alarm system on the 2017 Tundra. That being said, the DB-ALL2 should be set to Feature 5
Enabled for Smart OEM Alarm Control, which is the Default setting. Additionally, the Viper Remote Start Safelock
should be Enabled, Menu 3, Feature 16, Option 2.
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Posted By: 35chaser
Date Posted: October 04, 2017 at 11:26 AM
kreg357 wrote:
While I'm not a big Viper user and don't use DB-ALL's, according to the TL7 Install Guide, the DB-ALL2 should
control the Factory Alarm system on the 2017 Tundra. That being said, the DB-ALL2 should be set to Feature 5
Enabled for Smart OEM Alarm Control, which is the Default setting. Additionally, the Viper Remote Start Safelock
should be Enabled, Menu 3, Feature 16, Option 2.
Thanks kreg357, I ended up using the factory disarm wire this morning. Everything works great now. I read the manual and like you said the dball2 should have done all that for me. I guess the guy that flash the module disable it. Maybe one day ill go back in and take a look and change the settings on it. but for right now it'll do its job for this winter. Thank you for the input. Do you know anything about the Toyota factory chirp? is it possible to tie into it?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 05, 2017 at 12:33 PM
I use iDatalink bypass modules. Think I had to do a "unlock before and lock after" remote start on the last Tundra I did
to disarm the Factory alarm on remote start-up. Too bad Vipers don't have that programming option.
As for the Toyota factory lock tones, as far as I know you can't tap into that system manually. If I remember correctly, with
iDatalink modules, a lock or unlock from the aftermarket R/S system will produce the factory tones on most newer Toyota's.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 05, 2017 at 12:59 PM
Vipers do have that option, menu 3 option 16 "safestart" always program it on the Viper, not the DB.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 05, 2017 at 1:26 PM
The Viper expert from afar has good info.  You learn something new everyday!
The way I read the Remote Start Safelock description led me to believe it only locked the doors and set the alarm during
remote start-up and after R/S shutdown. It didn't mention anything about an unlock / disarm prior to remote start-up.
16. Remote start Safelock
1. Off: the Door lock and Factory Alarm Re-arm outputs will maintain the current status (locked/un
locked) during remote start and after shut down
2. On: the Door lock and Factory Alarm Re-arm outputs will arm/lock the vehicle during remote start
and after shutdown ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 05, 2017 at 2:09 PM
Yes young colonial, unlocks, starts, locks.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: 35chaser
Date Posted: October 05, 2017 at 10:54 PM
I use the factory disarm wire from viper to the factory disarm wire from the plug going into the driver door jam. The car remote starts no problem without unlocking before and locking after. Everything has been working great and range is awesome. Viper has not let me down yet.
Posted By: ht030115
Date Posted: November 08, 2017 at 8:07 PM
35chaser wrote:
I use the factory disarm wire from viper to the factory disarm wire from the plug going into the driver door jam. The car remote starts no problem without unlocking before and locking after. Everything has been working great and range is awesome. Viper has not let me down yet.
i have same problem with my 16 tundra, the alarm randomly go off when remote start.. if u mind, may i ask which wire did u used for factory disarm?
Posted By: beegbie
Date Posted: November 08, 2017 at 8:36 PM
I love db-alls but the ads-alca is a superior module for a Tundra. Not only does it give you the Toyota "chirps" when locking and unlocking, it also doesn't require unlocking then re-locking when remote starting for factory alarm disarm. It actually keeps the factory security armed while the truck is remote started.
Posted By: 35chaser
Date Posted: November 10, 2017 at 1:21 AM
ht030115 wrote:
35chaser wrote:
I use the factory disarm wire from viper to the factory disarm wire from the plug going into the driver door jam. The car remote starts no problem without unlocking before and locking after. Everything has been working great and range is awesome. Viper has not let me down yet.
i have same problem with my 16 tundra, the alarm randomly go off when remote start.. if u mind, may i ask which wire did u used for factory disarm?
Hi, i just saw the post, sorry a little late.
Factory alarm disarm - pink (driver door key unlock) - driver kick, white 20 pin plug, pin 18
hope this helps
Posted By: 35chaser
Date Posted: November 10, 2017 at 1:22 AM
here's a link to the wiring diagram i posted on a tundra forum.
https://www.tundras.com/threads/aftermarket-remote-starter.16893/page-2
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