2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Viper Remote Start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 9:37 AM
Topic: 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Viper Remote Start
Posted By: sparxx513
Subject: 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Viper Remote Start
Date Posted: November 27, 2017 at 7:28 PM
Installing a Viper 5706 in my grand Cherokee. Cranks but will not start, acts like the accessory wires are not getting powered.
Can someone please help me out with which wires on the heavy gauge harness go where?
I have the pink/white set to accessory 2.
Remote Start, White 10-pin heavy gauge connector
1 NC No Connection
2 RED/BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT
3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT #87a key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY
4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT #30 of FLEX RELAY
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT
6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER DISABLE)
7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER DISABLE)
8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
9 RED/WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
12 VOLT CONSTANT PINK/BLACK (+) and RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER 2 N/A
IGNITION 1 DARK BLUE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 2 N/A IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 3 N/A
ACCESSORY/HEATER BLOWER 1 RED/BLACK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ACCESSORY/HEATER BLOWER 2 BLACK/ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Thanks for the help in advance.
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 27, 2017 at 7:58 PM
Remote Start, White 10-pin heavy gauge connector
1 NC No Connection
2 RED/BLACK (+) FUSED 12V INPUT......................................RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT #87a.........................not used
4 PINK/WHITE (+) Flex *set to ACC ......................................BLACK/ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT...............................PINK/BLACK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE).............................YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...\
7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)........................YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS.../....cut wire
8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT.....................................RED/BLACK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
9 RED/WHITE (+) FUSED 12V INPUT........................................RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT..................................DARK BLUE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
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Posted By: sparxx513
Date Posted: November 27, 2017 at 8:50 PM
Thanks for the help kreg, Will finish it up tomorrow and report back.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM
Did you find this Pictorial on your Jeep ?
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=137527
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Posted By: sparxx_513
Date Posted: November 28, 2017 at 10:36 AM
Have all the wires hooked up as listed. Cranks and starts, but starter keep running. I’m using an idatalink bypass. D2D. The viper gives three options for tach. Virtual, voltage and tachometer. Any suggestions? Ive done the tach learn procedure( hold button down for three sec with car running and I get the blue light).
Interface Module
ADS-AL CA
Serial: 6416CFEC4A
Firmware: DBI-AL(DL)-CH6(v2.0)
Hardware: AL (64)
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 28, 2017 at 7:04 PM
You do have the correct firmware on the bypass module. Hopefully you set the bypass modules
Installation Mode to Data, one blink pattern, and locked it in.
The bypass module should supply a good Tach signal via the D2D harness. I would manually
program the Viper to Engine Checking = Tach and then do the Tach Learn process. If it still
over-cranks, you could do a hardwire of the Tach Signal between the bypass module and the Viper.
Last resort is to switch to Virtual Tach.
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Posted By: sparxx_513
Date Posted: November 28, 2017 at 7:19 PM
Yes it is set to data, everything else seems to work fine. Door locks, door signal etc. Shoukd I maybe re flash it? I’ve installed a few of these but this is my first d2d attempt.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 28, 2017 at 9:02 PM
Think I would verify the Viper Engine Checking = Tach first.
Next I would just run a hardwire Tach wire between the Viper and the bypass module. Then try a Tach Learn and a remote start.
Then a re-flash, factory reset, Install Mode lock-in and vehicle program if nothing else worked.
You try Virtual Tach for grins.
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Posted By: sparxx_513
Date Posted: November 28, 2017 at 9:56 PM
Can the bypass be in D2D but still use the W2W Tach? Gonna try to get it figured out on Thursday. Thanks for the help Kreg.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 29, 2017 at 4:16 AM
Program tach, Menu 3 feature 2 option 4 then re-learn tach.
That over cranking is because tach hasn't been learned.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 29, 2017 at 4:23 AM
sparxx_513 wrote:
Can the bypass be in D2D but still use the W2W Tach? Gonna try to get it figured out on Thursday. Thanks for the help Kreg.
Yes, while I don't use a lot of Viper units, I have read that you can go to D2D and hardwire certain Viper inputs like the Brake and Tach signals. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 29, 2017 at 5:24 AM
They've changed it Kreg, doing an 08 3 Series BMW last week, you can't select individual items any more, also that you could flash program comfort close, convertible roof up and down, had to manually program them on the DB-ALL.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: sparxx_513
Date Posted: November 30, 2017 at 11:00 AM
Tried it again this morning, refelashed the module, and set to data. The door locks work fine, door input works fine and the car starts with the key as normal. Tach learn process seems to be working, get the led on steady and hear relays click when I releases the switcH.
Starter still stays engaged, and after a few seconds the car quits running and starter stays cranking engine until I abort the start from the remote.
Any ideas?
Posted By: sparxx513
Date Posted: November 30, 2017 at 6:33 PM
Good to news to report, got everything working earlier today. I hate to say but i had a wire two wires backwards from the bypass to the skim. The one wire that is cut,had them backwards. Appreciate both of you guys and all your info.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 30, 2017 at 7:52 PM
It happens. Did an 08 Suburban today. Checked over the bench prepped R/S & bypass before install fortunately
and noticed I forgot to include a very important wire ( SWC ) in the steering column bundle...  ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: sparxx_513
Date Posted: November 30, 2017 at 7:57 PM
Good times huh lol, any tips on a 2015 Dodge Dart? That’s ones next l.
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