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2006 Kia Spectra Does Not Start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=144925
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Topic: 2006 Kia Spectra Does Not Start

Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Subject: 2006 Kia Spectra Does Not Start
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 10:23 AM

Hello,

I have installed a remote start on my friend's 2006 Kia Spectra and wired in for lock & unlock as well, for some reason when the vehicle is remote started it starts and dies right away. then tried to remote start again and sometimes it remains running and sometimes it does the same thing where it will shut off right away. I tried wiring in the bypass but there is no chip in the key so i take it as it doesn't have mobilizer. Also, alarm goes off after it is armed when it is remote started or unlocked with remote start fob. Any suggestions? Any help is appreciated.

Thank You



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Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 11:43 AM
If it remote starts with the key in the ignition, your problem is likely related to the bypass. Do you have keysense connected?

Also, when you unlock with the remote start fob, does the alarm only go off when it was locked with the factory remote?

Factory alarm arm/disarm are listed as "factory remote only". Scroll to the bottom here:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=72492

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Posted By: silvercivicsir
Date Posted: November 06, 2018 at 4:02 PM
did you learn Tach ?




Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Date Posted: November 07, 2018 at 5:44 PM
geepherder wrote:

If it remote starts with the key in the ignition, your problem is likely related to the bypass. Do you have keysense connected?

Also, when you unlock with the remote start fob, does the alarm only go off when it was locked with the factory remote?

Factory alarm arm/disarm are listed as "factory remote only". Scroll to the bottom here:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=72492


I do not not have key sense wired in, i am using Compustar CS900 module so which wire should be connected to key sense from remote start?

Yes, alarm only goes off when the vehicle is unlock from remote fob.




Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Date Posted: November 07, 2018 at 5:44 PM
silvercivicsir wrote:

did you learn Tach ?


i do not have tach wired in or activate on the remote start so it is not looking for tach input.




Posted By: silvercivicsir
Date Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:27 PM
and this is why it's not working... Compustar, needs tach or voltage sense. The Yellow/blk wire needs to be hooked up




Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: November 07, 2018 at 11:14 PM
sand33p_sidhu wrote:

geepherder wrote:

If it remote starts with the key in the ignition, your problem is likely related to the bypass. Do you have keysense connected?

Also, when you unlock with the remote start fob, does the alarm only go off when it was locked with the factory remote?

Factory alarm arm/disarm are listed as "factory remote only". Scroll to the bottom here:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=72492


I do not not have key sense wired in, i am using Compustar CS900 module so which wire should be connected to key sense from remote start?

Yes, alarm only goes off when the vehicle is unlock from remote fob.


I don't have experience with Compustar. I know Viper (DEI) refers to this wire as status, but it may also be called "ground-while-running". Since your car has a positive keysense wire, you'll need to use a relay:

https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram8.html

You'll be able to test after if this also disarms the factory alarm.

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My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.




Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Date Posted: November 08, 2018 at 11:02 AM
silvercivicsir wrote:

and this is why it's not working... Compustar, needs tach or voltage sense. The Yellow/blk wire needs to be hooked up



Are you sure? because i installed 100s of compustars without tach hook up and it works just fine for me as long as i turn it off and then it only looks for tach sensing unless this vehicle has to have a tach hooked up?




Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Date Posted: November 08, 2018 at 11:04 AM
geepherder wrote:

sand33p_sidhu wrote:

geepherder wrote:

If it remote starts with the key in the ignition, your problem is likely related to the bypass. Do you have keysense connected?

Also, when you unlock with the remote start fob, does the alarm only go off when it was locked with the factory remote?

Factory alarm arm/disarm are listed as "factory remote only". Scroll to the bottom here:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=72492


I do not not have key sense wired in, i am using Compustar CS900 module so which wire should be connected to key sense from remote start?

Yes, alarm only goes off when the vehicle is unlock from remote fob.


I don't have experience with Compustar. I know Viper (DEI) refers to this wire as status, but it may also be called "ground-while-running". Since your car has a positive keysense wire, you'll need to use a relay:

https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram8.html

You'll be able to test after if this also disarms the factory alarm.


Thanks a lot for your help, i will try this and let you know this goes.




Posted By: silvercivicsir
Date Posted: November 08, 2018 at 5:19 PM
so you went into the options and changed the "Engine sensing" to option 3, no connection? the default is "tach". Does the car over crank? If the car starts and then dies, and you don't have a chip in the key, you have most likely wired the ignition wrong. list the compustar colors with the wires you hooked up to the Kia.

Yellow Compustar W --> RED (Kia ign harness)
Green Compustar W --> Orange (Kia ign harness)
Orange Compustar W --> Yellow (kia ign harness)
Blue   Compustar W --> Blue (not needed)




Posted By: silvercivicsir
Date Posted: November 08, 2018 at 5:23 PM
also use the disarm/arm wires for unlock/lock and make sure to enable Unlock before / lock after.




Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Date Posted: November 13, 2018 at 10:48 PM
I checked the wires and seems like they are all hooked up correctly. I wired in keysense wire and that didn't solve the problem either. I don't seem to find tach wire, any other location to this tach wire?




Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:50 PM
Sometimes keysense wire alone disarms the factory alarm, but not always. Sit in the driver's seat, with the doors closed. Lock the doors with the factory fob and wait 60 seconds. Turn the key on, (but don't start the vehicle) and back off and remove your key. Manually unlock and open the door. Does that set off the factory alarm? If not, you can pulse the ignition wire in addition to the keysense wire. If your car has an immobilizer, it probably needs to "see" the transponder as well.

You should be able to get tach at a coil, but a fuel injector will also work:

https://www.bbbind.com/free-tsb

https://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/Wd/DownloadPdf?id=129107

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My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.




Posted By: sand33p_sidhu
Date Posted: November 19, 2018 at 4:30 PM
geepherder wrote:

Sometimes keysense wire alone disarms the factory alarm, but not always. Sit in the driver's seat, with the doors closed. Lock the doors with the factory fob and wait 60 seconds. Turn the key on, (but don't start the vehicle) and back off and remove your key. Manually unlock and open the door. Does that set off the factory alarm? If not, you can pulse the ignition wire in addition to the keysense wire. If your car has an immobilizer, it probably needs to "see" the transponder as well.

You should be able to get tach at a coil, but a fuel injector will also work:

https://www.bbbind.com/free-tsb

https://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/Wd/DownloadPdf?id=129107


Seems like by wiring in the keysense solved the alarm problem but still doesn't start ( starts sometimes ). For most part, it starts and remains running for few seconds, and then shuts right off. I guess, the only thing i have left to try is tach wire (?) even thou remote start module is looking voltage sensing?





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